On Thu, 18 Nov 1999, Samuel Byford wrote:

> Could you tell me (and the magazine readers) what it does exactly - my setpatch report now says 
> scsi.device, IDE_scsidisk 43.30;

if you want to get the really technical answers, i suggest buying the
Amiga Developer 2.1 CDROM

alan

On Thu, Nov 18, 1999 at 03:44:52PM +0000, Alan L.M. Buxey wrote:

> > Could you tell me (and the magazine readers) what it does exactly - my setpatch report now says 
> > scsi.device, IDE_scsidisk 43.30;
> if you want to get the really technical answers, i suggest buying the
> Amiga Developer 2.1 CDROM

Yeh, but I am not a developer (used to be), and don't plan on being one - so
the AD2.1 CD would be money down the drain as far as I am concerned - I just
want to know what was fixed and how I will see the fixes in operation -
general like, not complex details.

l8r

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Hi, I realised the other day that USB may be a very handy thing to have
on my A 4000. The only USB controller I`ve heard of is the possible add
on for the new G4 cards, but I couldn`t afford it unless I won the
lottery! Has anyone heard any rumours of a possible Zorro based USB
card?
  That is, if it would even be workable..I know on PC`s that USB
swallows a hell of a lot of CPU time (not sure about the Mac
implementation)..if so would an 040 powered Amiga even be upto the job?

> On Thu, 18 Nov 1999, Sealey, M. wrote:
> 
> > 2.0 is a pretty major release, and 4.2 allegedly
> > just got a bit cleaner. 
> 
> CGFX 4.2 isnt out yet. the update released yesterday/day 
> before was just a quick prerelease to fix some os3.5
> related functions

Christ, you don't give up, do you?

By the time AF get round to doing the feature, CGX 4.2
*will* be out. It doesn't matter either way...

> > Set up an Amiga with a clean OS3.5, P96 2.0 install
> > and run some neat graphics apps across it, P96Speed
> > benchmarks etc.
> > 
> > Reinstall, and repeat with the latest CGX 4.2
> 
> LOL. use P96speed to test CGX ? now...wonder if that'll be a 
> bit biased? :-)

Why? It just tests standard graphics.library functions, which
the RTG systems purport to patch.

> its of no use to use B/CVisionPPC people anyway as P96 doesnt 
> run on our cards

So what? There are about 10 graphics cards available for the
Amiga, most of which are supported by BOTH systems.

> > Finally we'll see which is the better system and
> > how, and why!?!
> 
> 'better system'? Well, P96 uses CGX compatible API's..so there must be
> some reason behind that. Also, I believe that the AmigaOS should have
> its own RTG system..perhaps in OS3.8..maybe even 4.0?

Later!

> Theres very little difference between the two (bar some results that
> benchmarking provides), I certainly dont see a problem with speed when
> i'm running my card in 1280x1024x32 80Hz refresh.

LIke you'd notice? Well Tudor thought it was a great idea. You can just
get stuff, is what YOU can do ;)

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Distributed Systems Support
Computer Centre
University of Leicester 

> On Thu, 18 Nov 1999, Samuel Byford wrote:
> 
> > Could you tell me (and the magazine readers) what it does 
> > exactly - my setpatch report now says scsi.device,
> > IDE_scsidisk 43.30;
> 
> if you want to get the really technical answers, i suggest
> buying the Amiga Developer 2.1 CDROM

In a sort of ironic kinda way, it doesn't actually tell you
on the CD (all thank Ben nicely for getting me a copy from
Cologne ;)

You get info on the Arexx port for WB, and the new printer
stuff.. but that's it. Apparently some stuff just wasn't
ready to release, including the big big changes list.

Bugger. I almost feel cheated. No matter, I'll soon blag a
copy of the changelog somehow ;)

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Distributed Systems Support
Computer Centre
University of Leicester 

Hi
I've got a little bit of problem.My Amiga's
sound is very noisy when using AHI.I've
tryed playing with the settings but it doesn't
help.What can I do??Can anyone send his
settings file??My e-mail address is dial@otenet.gr
Cheers
-- 
Amiga RULEZ in Greece TOO!!

Hi,

Since people have been crap at sending in Gallery images this issue (we only
have three entries), we'd like to have a page of extra opinion about OS3.5.

Send in letters to clare.hatfield@futurenet.co.uk with the subject OS3.5 and
don't give her too much copy. A single succinct line of text would be
better than four paras of waffle.

There is a stringent deadline on this - we need letters by Monday morning at
the latest, so get a wiggle on!

All the best,
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Editor, Amiga Format                       F: (+44) 01225 732275
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Parsimonious Marketing Executive Blamed For Advertising Hoarding

> Has anyone heard any rumours of a possible Zorro based USB
> card?

Wasn't there a news feature in AF about it a couple of months ago?
Can't remember which issue it was though.

Paul
=====
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Explain what you mean by "noisy". Does it sound like a radio that's not
tuned in completely, if you know what I mean? Does this noise almost
drown out the sound that's supposed to be produced? Are you using the
add audiomodes feature of AHI?

On Thu, 18 Nov 1999, Tudor Davies wrote:

> the AD2.1 CD would be money down the drain as far as I am concerned - I just
> want to know what was fixed and how I will see the fixes in operation -
> general like, not complex details.

well, if all goes well, you wont actually see any of the fixes in
operation...if the fixes werent there you'd see the bugs and memory
leaks in operation

alan

On Thu, 18 Nov 1999, Sealey, M. wrote:

> Christ, you don't give up, do you?

;-)
 
> By the time AF get round to doing the feature, CGX 4.2
> *will* be out. It doesn't matter either way...

well, if cgx 4.2 comes out next week, then the article would be in the
march issue..by which time P96 2.1 would be out and cgx 4.4 would be out
etc

> So what? There are about 10 graphics cards available for the
> Amiga, most of which are supported by BOTH systems.

yes, and most users of gfx cards have tried both before buying...surely?
I would have tried P96 if it was available too. most gfx card users I 
know arent dumb users 

> LIke you'd notice? Well Tudor thought it was a great idea. You can just
> get stuff, is what YOU can do ;)

My API is bigger than your API! ..oh, no! thats wrong...erm BETTER than
yours ;-)

alan

On Thu, 18 Nov 1999, Sealey, M. wrote:

> In a sort of ironic kinda way, it doesn't actually tell you
> on the CD (all thank Ben nicely for getting me a copy from
> Cologne ;)
> 
> You get info on the Arexx port for WB, and the new printer
> stuff.. but that's it. Apparently some stuff just wasn't
> ready to release, including the big big changes list.
> 
> Bugger. I almost feel cheated. No matter, I'll soon blag a
> copy of the changelog somehow ;)

must be the 'first pressing batch' that had the changelog missing :-)

alan

> well, if cgx 4.2 comes out next week, then the article would be in the
> march issue..by which time P96 2.1 would be out and cgx 4.4 
> would be out etc

Fup off!

> > So what? There are about 10 graphics cards available for the
> > Amiga, most of which are supported by BOTH systems.
> 
> yes, and most users of gfx cards have tried both before 
> buying...surely?

No, they try one, try the other, and stick with it regardless.

Picasso96 is generally regarded as the slow retarded one, with
less support for cards. With 2.0 out, this looks to change.

*I* for one would LOVE to see HOW!

> I would have tried P96 if it was available too. most gfx card users I 
> know arent dumb users 

You OBVIOUSLY aren't paying attention to the 3DWorld list (heh, what
was his name? Pavel?) or to much of c.s.a.m.

Dumb they may not be, idiots they certainly are, and stubborn, misguided
ones at that.
 
> My API is bigger than your API! ..oh, no! thats wrong...erm 
> BETTER than yours ;-)

-- 
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Distributed Systems Support
Computer Centre
University of Leicester

> > Bugger. I almost feel cheated. No matter, I'll soon blag a
> > copy of the changelog somehow ;)
> 
> must be the 'first pressing batch' that had the changelog missing :-)

No, that's *it*..

-- 
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Distributed Systems Support
Computer Centre
University of Leicester

Hi all,

Wassup? Why is no-one sending us reader reviews; AFCD surveys; gallery
entries; reader games; readerstuff entries; WB screengrabs, etc.?

All the best,
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> Hi all,
> 
> Wassup? Why is no-one sending us reader reviews; AFCD surveys; gallery
> entries; reader games; readerstuff entries; WB screengrabs, etc.?

Ooh, that reminds me, icons may take a few days longer as they aren't
saving properly (the four-colour fallback keeps 'being' a little black
dot).

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Distributed Systems Support
Computer Centre
University of Leicester

Hi
My Amy is infected with a virus called
Babylon5 which VirusZ don't recognise
At the moment it adds the word "JUNK"
in the execute command window!!!It didn's
do any damage yet but I don't know what
will it do next.I found it's name from ARTM
and-or Executive.It exists as a Task called
"Babylon5" and it's in process while it adds
the word I mentioned.I don't have any 
idea about where it came from as I have
tons of downloads.If anyone can help...
Be CAREFUL
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> Hi
> My Amy is infected with a virus called
> Babylon5 which VirusZ don't recognise
> At the moment it adds the word "JUNK"
> in the execute command window!!!

Doesn't DefIcons do that when you double-click
empty files?

> do any damage yet but I don't know what
> will it do next.I found it's name from ARTM
> and-or Executive.It exists as a Task called
> "Babylon5" and it's in process while it adds
> the word I mentioned.I don't have any 
> idea about where it came from as I have
> tons of downloads.If anyone can help...
> Be CAREFUL

Have you tried killing the Babylon5 task?

It would be nice if you knew where it came
from.. did you install anything recently?

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Distributed Systems Support
Computer Centre
University of Leicester

Hello Alan,

On 18-Nov-99, you wrote:

> 'better system'? Well, P96 uses CGX compatible API's..so there must be
> some reason behind that.

Yes, compatibility. Apart from that, P96 has its own API.

> Also, I believe that the AmigaOS should have
> its own RTG system..perhaps in OS3.8..maybe even 4.0?

The current solutions are running stable enough, so there is no real
need for it, IMHO. Though I agree the next major release (like 4.0)
should really have its own. And Olaf Barthel already wrote the Picasso
software for the Picasso2, and contributed parts to P96, so they have at
least one able man to do it.
 
> Theres very little difference between the two (bar some results that
> benchmarking provides), I certainly dont see a problem with speed when
> i'm running my card in 1280x1024x32 80Hz refresh.

It even matters what card you use. There is no use to tell people my GFX
software is better than yours! because it really depends on what gfx
card you have.

Regards
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> Doesn't DefIcons do that when you double-click
> empty files?
Yes it is similar but I have never seen deficons
adding things like junk
> Have you tried killing the Babylon5 task?
Yes I killed it the first time it worked but the
second it just crashed first CON then WB
and then it showed up a Guru.
I installed AmigaAmp from aminet and
IdeFix3.4 as I have had 3.3
bye
-- 
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hi
 Explain what you mean by "noisy". Does it sound like a radio that's not
> tuned in completely, if you know what I mean? Does this noise almost
> drown out the sound that's supposed to be produced? Are you using the
> add audiomodes feature of AHI?
Yes it looks like a crappy radio with "KRATS KRATS"noises in every sound and this annoys me a lot as in some not very loud sounds
I can't hear I don't know what is the add audiomodes option.
Cheers
-- 
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Hello Matt,

On 18-Nov-99, you wrote:


>>>> While the AmiJOE G3 will be more like a current accelerator 
>> > 
>> > The phase5 and Met@box accelerators are essentially identical, it's
>> > just phase5's will be running Neutrino out-of-the-box and Met@box's
>> > .. well we don't know what it'll be running, but probably the H&P
>> > emulator with WarpOS on top.
>> 
>> I doubt they'll be identical. I know the Met@box card is designed by
>> Dave Haynie
> 
> Is it?

Yes.

>> and that Ex-P5 type (Carda or something), and I don't think they have
>> anything to do with P5.
> 
> Apart from the guy who designed the original PowerUP cards :)

Only the developer boards ;)

>> The two boards will probably be identical in the same meaning as the
>> Apollo 060 cards are identical to the Blizzard 060 cards: they serve
>> the same purpose.
> 
> Isn't that what I said? Essentially identical.

OK, then I didn't understand you correctly. I thought you meant they
were the same boards, only sold and produced by different companies
(like say the 68k Blizzards by P5 and DCE).

Regards
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On Thu, 18 Nov 1999 17:48:14 -0000, Sealey, M. (mws2@leicester.ac.uk) wrote:
> > Hi
> > My Amy is infected with a virus called
> > Babylon5 which VirusZ don't recognise
> > At the moment it adds the word "JUNK"
> > in the execute command window!!!
> 
> Doesn't DefIcons do that when you double-click
> empty files?

I think so .... although don't quote me on that  ;-)

> > do any damage yet but I don't know what
> > will it do next.I found it's name from ARTM
> > and-or Executive.It exists as a Task called
> > "Babylon5" and it's in process while it adds
> > the word I mentioned.I don't have any 
> > idea about where it came from as I have
> > tons of downloads.If anyone can help...
> > Be CAREFUL
> 
> Have you tried killing the Babylon5 task?
> 
> It would be nice if you knew where it came
> from.. did you install anything recently?

I wouldn't kill it!  I think it is one of the WarpOS tasks!!  I've just
gone WarpOS (with the installation of OS3.5) and I too now have a Babylon5,
as well as a Defiant (and probably other sci-fi related task names) ...

Hope this helps ...

Kev

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On 17-Nov-99, caradog@pagan-games.com wrote:

> Ok, got a small problem. Bought a new HD to go with OS3.5, a 6.4gig
> beauty. Prob is, OS3.5 is having trouble formatting any partitions over
> 4gig...which wa sstarnge I as tohught 3.5 had support for larger
> drives, then again, maybe I have to install the filesystem manually?

Why would you want a single partition that big!!??

Mash - 
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Condense soup, not books.

On 17-Nov-99, Ben Vost wrote:

>> So if it doesn't work for every single machine out there, it isn't
>> needed?

> No, it doesn't mean it isn't needed, it's just not as simple to implement
> as you seem to suggest.

I have never in my life heard of or seen a machine which cant use a no-click
util correctly. I've seen 1200's from several years, old ones, new ones,
escom ones...600's are fine, as are 3000 and 4000 (deskdtop, tower and
those other ones they made) That leaves the 500. 500+, 1000 and 2000. Quite
frankly if anyone is using them, tough. God knows how many times AF, CU and
the rest nagged old machine owners to upgrade. Anyone here prove me wrong?

Mash - right
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Don't try to have the last word.  You might get it.

On 17-Nov-99, Ben Vost wrote:

>> What is amigactive and how can i contact who produces it to get a
>> subcription.

> AmiGactive is another Amiga magazine in the UK and you can go to their
> website, which, funnily enough, is at http://www.amigactive.com

Ben'll be in tears when AF goes bust and AA takes over the world as the best
mag ever...all because he tried to be nice ;)

Mash - 
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Lingerie (n): Braille for Blind Love.

On 17-Nov-99, chris wrote:

>> Does anyone-one know the target for Wipeout sales?  For that matter does
>> anyone know how many PPC boards have been sold?

> 10,000+

Hey Ben!, how about getting a wet towel onto P5's arses and get them to
bundle 2097 with the Gx boards? they screwed up royally before by not doing
a quake deal, please don't let them give up a great chance like this!!

Mash - 
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HTTP://www.bigwig.net/mash

The test: Behavior in times of controversy and challenge.

On 17-Nov-99, Ben Vost wrote:

>> Actually I have deleted the 2(?) manage mails received - am I in breach
>> of AFB rules...

> Yes you are and I've decided that banning is too good for the likes of you
> lot. All breaches of afb rules will be punishable by death.

Getting Rich to do the dirty work again? ;D hehehe

I'm going to have to make a Rich related submission for the gallery soon,
lets see now.....

Mash - 
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Republican National Convention, Obtain an epic: "Clinton lover a nun".

On 16-Nov-99, Alan L.M. Buxey wrote:

>> Nah, I'm for a new machine. I'm not going to add anything to the 1200
>> (serial cards, powerflyers etc) timing problems etc, plus the huge cost
>> of the new cards!

> you, like me, have one of the older A1200's...from around 1991/2? If so,
> then NO timing problems at all... we have the best ones

1D4 :((   :P~_- 

>> ps. the boxer has (will have) 2 mouse ports, one for amiga and one for pc
>> mice, will the pc mouse port control the pointer in the startup menu
>> (working like a punchinello) or is it gonna need a serial driver?

> ha ha...BoXeR! great joke! why is everyone holdng out for this white
> elephant? Look forward to non-68k machines if you really are to buy a
> new computer...

I know, I want a ppc only based amiga soon. I'm *not* paying for any machine
which:

1) can't use a ps2 mouse on the startup screen
2) has a 68x in
3) uses SIMMs or those reeeallly expensive laptom ram things (ie.p5 boards)
4) doesn't have an up to date serial/parallel port(s)
5) Isn't pink and fluffy


Mash - Just eaten a crisp he found under the ( key.
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On 17-Nov-99, Ben Vost wrote:

>> 7 was shite, I doubt you'll argue this. Hardly a thing was
>> added which is why I didn't buy it. The printing is as slow as ever and
>> the only new stuff was the toolbar and a couple of other tidbits

> I'll argue that jumping from 4SE to 7 would have made a huge difference

oh yeah, sure. I went from 2 to 6, that was great (never really needed a WP
in junior school!) but 6->7 wasn't worth it at all.

dodgey timezone methinks ;)

Mash - 
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On 17-Nov-99, Mark wrote:

> I went from the version that shipped with the Desktop Dynamite package
> (was it the first version? I can't remember now) straight to ver7 and I

2

> I do have a question about WW7 though: Is there any way to find out what
> line your cursor is currently on? And is there a way to jump to a
> specified line number?

by cursor do you mean the mouse pointer or the flashing block thungummy? if
the latter then its at the bottom left of the screen, along with the column
number

Mash - typing
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I know this is off-topic, but...

Hello Matthew

On 17-Nov-99, you wrote:

> Hey Ben!, how about getting a wet towel onto P5's arses and get them to
> bundle 2097 with the Gx boards? they screwed up royally before by not
> doing a quake deal, please don't let them give up a great chance like
> this!!
> 
> Mash - 
Or how about.......Ben getting a wet towel onto Mash's arse for not buying
OS3.5 or WipeOut 2097 coz he wants free stuff when he buys hardware!!

Regards

chris
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Powered by PowerPC Amiga in Dumfries & Galloway

A1200 Power Tower, 200Mhz PPC/060 50Mhz, BVision, 74Mb Ram, OS3.5, CGX V4.1

Panasonic 36" Wiiiiddeessccrreeennn TV, Pioneer 717 MultiRegion DVD, Denon
AC3 Decoder, JBL Speakers, Kef SubWoofer..... 

Hello,
I just joined the afb ML just now, hoping I won't get too many mails each=
 day.
I'll post some dumb remarks to get going ;)

GMT is only CET minus one, right? I think you guys are a bit ahead of tim=
e,
cause I already received the christmas edition. I only wish it was alread=
y
christmas :)

"It costs less than 2p a day since you last had the oppurtunity to upgrad=
e your
OS, so get real and get OS3.5", Ben Vost
I guess that it was about time! I personally think that each person shoul=
d
decide for himself wether he needs it or not. If he wants to run software=
 that
requires OS3.5, he should buy it of course :)

Salut
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> I wouldn't kill it! I think it is one of the WarpOS tasks!! I've just gone
> WarpOS (with the installation of OS3.5) and I too now have a Babylon5, as
> well as a Defiant (and probably other sci-fi related task names) ...

Didn't any1 read the December Issue of AF ?? In the 50 things you should
know about your Amiga bit (Number 6) "Sam Jordan the creator of the WarpUp
PowerPC kernel for the Amiga is a bit of a Trekkie, One of the housekeeping
tasks is called Enterprise and another is called Voyager"..... So I guess
your right this Babylon5 task is probbibly something to do with the WarpUp
kernel.... so killing it would be a way bad idea...

Cya
Tw|sT
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Hi

On 16-Nov-99 12:10:21, amimjf (amimjf@hotmail.com) wrote:

> Any filesystem is better than FFS, PFS/MUFS/SFS, they are all more
> secure (data integrity), and offer incresed performance and space
> efficency. 

> In //my// opiion SFS is better because,..
> 1) You CAN recover data from damaged partitions, PFS just wont.

PFS has recovery tools, and I'm yet to try to recover anything with SFS. As
far as I'm concerned, nothing on AmigaOS beats FFS in this area.

> 2) An Online Defragmenter is available now.

... because SFS is utterly and completely *SHITE* at keeping files
defragmented... up until recently it would quite happily cause worst case
fragmentation when writing to multiple files; i.e. interleaving files on the
disk. It's still pretty bad... I've had SFS slow down so much it takes
around 10 seconds for a disk update.

> 3) MUFS lib support will happen,.. "any time soon now", wheras PFS, is
> dont.

Who could care less? AmigaOS is not a multiuser system.

> It is worth noteing that SFS is still developmental

And that the author is limited with the amount of time he has to dedicate to
it.

> (although very
> stable), and you should not replace ALL your partitions with it. I
> think the best way to
> use it is to create a new partition and assign web cache, temp files,
> PPaint / ImageStudio VM files, YAM temps and other stuff to it. 

Yes, I use SFS on a single, non-vital partition. I recently moved Thor over
to it, to get around FFS's shite seeking speed.

Regards

Tom
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Hi

On 16-Nov-99 16:16:10, Alan L.M. Buxey (kcci1@central.susx.ac.uk) wrote:

>> Like what? DynamiCache just crashes.

> hypercache is what i use

Never seen that, can't see it on AmiNet. I take it it's commercial?

>> I moved Thor to an SFS partiton, and now all is well... much faster,
>> too

> have yo thought about PFS3 ?

Yes, I think it's a rip off for a filesystem, sorry :)

>> > why ot try YAM for AFB? Its free and its brilliant!
>> 
>> LOL, if I wanted to use a buggy, memory guzzling, slow emailer I would,
>> but I seriously doubt Yam and any filesystem on earth would cope with
>> my workload very well :D

> well, you can throw those allegations at YAM...but i have yet to have
> any problem with it.

Yes, I can, because I used Yam for 8 months, and after dumping it, I've seen
enough people on IRC bitch about it to know it's still not much better in
release form.

Here are some excerpts of stuff said about Yam on ARCNet #amiga over the
past month from various users:

<quote>
Anyone here know how to get YAM to close when it's locked up due to dodgy
message?

funny how yam's been saying "2670 of 3098 bytes" for over 5 minutes now

too bad killall -9 yam wont work, heh

fk knows why I use yam now

that mail crashed yam, heh

f*ck yam

f*ck yam

(From two different peeps, about 5 mins apart ;)

YAM crashed... Freaky: dont say a word

yam is usally pretty damn stable, it just completely goes belly up now and
then for no reason at all :)

I don't use yam, It looks nice but its as stable as a trip in my dads boat

well its not bad, what I'm saying is yam is pretty bad on my system, I use
microdot II, crashed twice in a year

Yam crashes to much

Yam bam! no thankyou mam :)

yam just caused a guru, gotta reset.... hmmpfft

f____ st____  #@#!@$@!@%!"$!%!" YAM
</quote>

Says it all, I think ;)


>> Besides, AFB is not important to me, I'd sooner unsubscribe than do
>> much to be able to read it...

> nice attitude  :-|

Why? I get around 450 mails/day, if I felt they were all important I'd never
get anything done!  Besides which, AFB is pretty damn noisy.

Regards

Tom
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Hi

On 16-Nov-99 11:31:09, Tim Seifert (tim_seifert@picknowl.com.au) wrote:

> Hello Thomas,

>>> I've only briefly looked at Genesis and AmiTCP, both are nasty pieces
>>> of work.
>  
>> Erm, in what way? The filesystem db is certainly a much better idea
>> than the really STUPID way Miami does it.

> Well a GUI is nicer, though Genesis now works in a similar manner to
> Miami's GUI.  A text based config does have it's advantages, if you
> know what you're doing, but for those who don't it's ripe for real
> problems (and that includes trying to get applications to run that have
> woefully inadequate instructions).

Instructions are for wimps... :)

> And it's nicer to have a one piece
> GUI to configure a system with (like Miami.... used to be, MiamiDx
> isn't).

Yes, it's nice to have a GUI, and I'm not disputing that, but why does
having a GUI rule out having a filesystem based db, which makes it
sooooooooooooo much easier to automate stuff. Yam has a text based config,
as do MANY other applications, but it certainly doesn't rule out having a
GUI front end for them... it just makes it so much more flexible.

> Genesis just won't connect to my ISPs for me, and I'm not completely
> devoid of knowledge at configuring these types of things, so I can't
> pin it down to anything in particular.

Strange... maybe your ISP only allows MS-CHAP or something (if they do, this
means they suck, btw :)

Regards

Tom
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Hi

On 16-Nov-99 10:19:58, Alan L.M. Buxey (kcci1@central.susx.ac.uk) wrote:

> On 15 Nov 1999, Thomas Hurst wrote:

>> Mmmm... Zip drive... CD-R... 17" monitor.... 20GB HD... new PC....
>> V... AmIRC 3.*.... all things I'd much rather spend my money on.

> sure...but with os3.5 that 20Gb HD would actually be supported without
> patches hanging out of every crevice

A 20GB HD would NOT be in the Amiga. It already has 2 HD's. If I ever got
one that big, it would go on one of 3 PC's.

Regards

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C Error #011: First C Program, huh?

Hi

On 16-Nov-99 09:45:58, Sealey, M. (mws2@leicester.ac.uk) wrote:

> Everything else, as Ben says, is compiled in SAS/C 6.58 which just
> happens to be the best Amiga C compiler on the planet (with VBCC
> being a close catchup :)

Nah, gcc forever ;P

> Anyway, you can't judge an OS on it's compiler.

Why not, if it's generating the code for the system, and it's generating
shite code...but apparantly it isn't, so... :)

Interesting to se H&P didn't even try to get it working in their own
compiler, hehe.

> You're all just
> thinking up random excuses for the sake of it. What have you got
> to lose from buying OS3.5 apart from some kind of twisted pride
> for screwing the rest of us out of any updates?

Money? OS3.5 would cost me around 1/3rd of my "spare" "income" per month,
which I can ill afford to waste. Even more if I have to buy original 3.1
ROM's rather than softkicking a CD32 one. Besides which, most of that money
already has a potential home in more useful stuff.

tbh, what have I got to GAIN from "upgrading" to 3.5?

Some "updated" prefs utils that I never use anyway (can't remember the last
time I used a prefs util, honestly, not because I don't want to, but because
I've not needed to).

Some updated BOOPSI wigdets based on another GUI system I hate?

An updated printer driver system? USEFUL when I don't have a printer on my
Amiga.

An updated icon system? Oh yeah, that's really worth all that money,
especially when they're all going to be hidden under 101 shell's.

A better version of WB with progress bars and abort buttons? Great, more
memory used in the program I use to open a window for all my shells...

A built in email package? I'll stick with Thor.

AWeb? Nah, I hope to be using a proper browser soon. Miami? Already have
that, although it won't be used for dial-up much longer.

Improved HDToolBox? Not very tempting in a tool I only now use every SFS
update...

Support for large HD's? Useful on one 810MB drive and one 2.5GB drive.. no,
really ;)

PPC/GFX card support? Oh look, I'm running a PPC task under a GFX card,
surprise surprise :)

As for fewer hacks and improved stability, well..

24.Workbench:> uptime
23:41:20, 8:22, load: 0.20, 0.05, 0.00

Although I will admit...

24.Workbench:> showpatches | grep -c " " in:
114

> ;)

As for promises of an update if they get enough sales... they have ~7k,
and they need 25k sales just to break even... even IF I think they could
make that (which I doubt), I fail to see how they could update AmigaOS to
make it suitably better so much for me to want to upgrade again. PPC native?
Yeah, right, as if anybody has those resources, especially to do it this
millennium (end of 2000, NOT 1999!), after which I
doubt even the few people who care now will.

Regards

Tom
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A.  I don't know and I couldn't

Hi

On 16-Nov-99 10:59:19, Tim Seifert (tim_seifert@picknowl.com.au) wrote:

> Please try to navigate one of these sites without sight.  Even just
> using them without graphics, for a person with sight, is difficult, as
> you'll not have a clue about the links.  And if they've not bothered to
> put in the image dimensions (for the whole map), you won't get a big
> blank box with different clickable locations, you'll get a little icon
> that's /completely/ useless.

Yes... I think too many people forget poorly sited people; mention Lynx
compatbility to most people and they'll laugh at you - "Get a real
browser... this is the 90's you know" - but Lynx gives a pretty good idea of
what blind/partially sighted people will, erm, "see".

>> ALT doesn't work on image maps, besides which, having a bloody great
>> big empty box on a web page is still irritating.

> I think it does, but you'd only get one alt text for the whole graphic,
> and no way of knowing about the different paths you could follow.

Yes, that it what I meant.

> I can think of more than just a few sites where there is no alt text at
> all, and others with completely useless alt text (like my banks site -
> there's text there, randomly identifying that one graphic is different
> from the next, but it gives no indication of the links purpose, they
> could have least put "balance," "help," etc into the alt text).

I've seen this more often than I like... half the time I just leave, others
I will manually load images I think look important to navigation, and on
sites that aren't too GFX heavy I MAY bless with the gift of the Images
button.

> One day I'm going to send them a job application:

> i wont a job wiv u ware i can porgarm ure web sit thot dunt werk on most
> broasers and got paid well 4 it tu

lol :)

Regards

Tom
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Hi

On 17-Nov-99 16:43:41, Tim Seifert (tim_seifert@picknowl.com.au) wrote:

>> Yes you are and I've decided that banning is too good for the likes of
>> you lot. All breaches of afb rules will be punishable by death.

> Downgrading to AmigaOS 1.1 would be more cruel.

Yes, running under WinUAE on an 8MB 486 DX2 underclocked to 2MHz...Muahahaha!

Regards

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On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, Matthew O'Neill wrote:

> > I went from the version that shipped with the Desktop Dynamite package
> > (was it the first version? I can't remember now) straight to ver7 and I
> 
> 2

Cheers.

> > I do have a question about WW7 though: Is there any way to find out what
> > line your cursor is currently on? And is there a way to jump to a
> > specified line number?
> 
> by cursor do you mean the mouse pointer or the flashing block thungummy? if
> the latter then its at the bottom left of the screen, along with the column
> number

The flashing block thingummy that indicates where your text will be
entered. And it isn't shown at the bottom left of my screen - I get told
how far down the page it is in inches :(

Mark_H

Hello
I've just upgraded to 3.1 Kick and now my screen is corrupted.
I used to work in a 656x495 screen, but now I can't reach the far right
of
my screen anymore (well I can reach it, but my mousepointer disappears)
and on
the left side the is a small border that my mouse can't reach.

What is causing this problem.

(And I didn't even install my 3.5)

thanx
maarten

I spoke to an Amiga-dealer today and he told me that there was a big
rumour
in Cologne that Collas and whatshisname are trying to buy the new
Amiga-plans
from Amiga.
Anyone heard anything more about this?
You maybe, Ben V.

maarten

Hi Matt

> > > > Most of us have more than one Amiga. Some may even have more
> > > > than one Amiga that makes the grade for running OS3.5. So
> > > > what I want to know is, how many machines are you allowed to
> > > > install your 1 copy on?
> > >
> > > Only one working machine. Theoretically you could just buy the
> > > one copy and install it on all your machines, but only have
> > > one of them switched on at a time, but...
> >
> > Kinda defeats the object of a network really.
>
> What? What rubbish is THAT then?

[snip blatant missing-of-the-joke]

Whooooaaaa! Hold your horses there Matty-boy!  I was just making a joke
about how a network where you could have only one machine switched on at a
time is a bit useless.  Don't take everything so seriously, maybe you should
visit de-caf land ;-)

Tatty byes
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> PowerPC kernel for the Amiga is a bit of a Trekkie, One of the
housekeeping
> tasks is called Enterprise and another is called Voyager"..... So I
guess
> your right this Babylon5 task is probbibly something to do with the
WarpUp
> kernel.... so killing it would be a way bad idea...
> 
This is true. There is also one called Defiant which is another
StarTrek ship. Don't worry about them, Babylon5 has been on my system
for ages.

Hi Alan

> > I think this poll is somewhat silly becasue not enough makes are
> > mentioned. There are huge numbers of people with 'Other' because makes
> > such as Seagate and Western Digital are not mentioned.
>
> well, we'll see with the results... if 10 people say Fujitsu and 10
> people say 'other' then that means that a far higher percentage use
> fujitsu than all of the other makes.

Not necessarily.  If, for example, all the Other votes were made by people
with Seagate drives the percentages would be the same.</pedant>

> at least it had a date ;-)

Shame I didn't...

Tatty byes
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Hi Ben

> > Hey Ben do those rules include the ones about changing subject
> > headings to match the posting then ?  and why is Evil Rich grinning
> > behind your back like that ? ;-)
>
> Hey Col, why are you standing facing the corner like that? Josh? JOSH?!
> Aaaararrrrrggghhhhh....
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee*...

He was standing, right?  One of my friends is quite insistent he was
hanging...

Tatty byes
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This week's lie: Marzipan has DNA only 1% different from that of a squid.

> Yes it looks like a crappy radio with "KRATS KRATS"noises in every
sound and this annoys me a lot as in some not very loud sounds
> I can't hear I don't know what is the add audiomodes option.

Are you trying to play MP3s downloaded from the net? Sometimes they are
downloaded incorrectly and this causes a really loud noise to occur,
which sounds like boiling water with high squeaks in it. If this the
case you need a program to "uncook" these files. If this isn't the case
then I probably can't help you :( 

> Multiview is buggy and unstable anyway. When reading AmigaGuides, the
> scrolling refuses to work with the arrow keys, and if I use the actual
> arrow buttons below the scrollbar, it crashes. Text is the same. And if I
> use the arrow keys when the scrollbar is halfway into the text, it goes
> back up to the top again. How irritating :)

IIRC This is caused by 3.1 Multiview running on Kickstart 3.0. Hope that
helps.

Regards
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Hi Alkis,

On 18-Nov-99 16:45:23 GMT, Alkis Tsapanidis wrote:

> My Amy is infected with a virus called
> Babylon5 which VirusZ don't recognise
> At the moment it adds the word "JUNK"
> in the execute command window!!!It didn's
> do any damage yet but I don't know what
> will it do next.I found it's name from ARTM
> and-or Executive.It exists as a Task called
> "Babylon5" and it's in process while it adds
> the word I mentioned.I don't have any 
> idea about where it came from as I have

It's no virus - it's one of WarpOS's housekeeping tasks!  You will also
find a task called "Defiant", and maybe some others.  Obviously, the
WarpOS developers are sci-fi fans, as the PPC side has 2 housekeeping
tasks called "Enterprise" and "Voyager".

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Hello Andrew

On 17-Nov-99, Andrew Crowe wrote:


>   Well, unless you have a small harddrive, simply copy your SYS:
> partition to a safe place (a diferent partition) and then install OS3.5
> 
>   If it fails, copy it back ;)

Well, what I wanted toknow is if anybody has managed to install it without
too much pain.

Bye
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On Sun, 14 Nov 1999 19:58:17 +0100, Wesley Potter (wezza@currantbun.com) wrote:
> 
> > Multiview is buggy and unstable anyway. When reading AmigaGuides, the
> > scrolling refuses to work with the arrow keys, and if I use the actual
> > arrow buttons below the scrollbar, it crashes. Text is the same. And if I
> > use the arrow keys when the scrollbar is halfway into the text, it goes
> > back up to the top again. How irritating :)
> 
> IIRC This is caused by 3.1 Multiview running on Kickstart 3.0. Hope that
> helps.

Multiview is perfectly stable here - buy the 3.1 ROMS and the OS3.5 upgrade
and it'll be fine for you too!   ;-)

Kev

PS Yes, it was my turn to advocate buying OS3.5 - I think it's Paul C's
next ...

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Hello Matthew

On 17-Nov-99, you wrote:

>> Bought a new HD to go with OS3.5, a 6.4gig
>> beauty. Prob is, OS3.5 is having trouble formatting any partitions over
>> 4gig...

> Why would you want a single partition that big!!??

  Nay, Mash, I'm no native speaker but now I know you're not always doing
it on purpose. He meant any partitions /beyond/ the 4gig he's already using!

  Patrice

Hello Matthew

On 17-Nov-99, you wrote:

> I have never in my life heard of or seen a machine which cant use a
> no-click util correctly. I've seen 1200's from several years, old ones,
> new ones, escom ones...600's are fine, as are 3000 and 4000 (deskdtop,
> tower and those other ones they made) That leaves the 500. 500+, 1000 and
> 2000. Quite frankly if anyone is using them, tough. God knows how many
> times AF, CU and the rest nagged old machine owners to upgrade. Anyone
> here prove me wrong?

  I might confirm, since I still own a perfectly working A1000... or deny, 
it all depends... Can you or anyone explain what your point is?

  Patrice

Hello Brecht

On 18-Nov-99, you wrote:

> Hello,
> I just joined the afb ML just now, hoping I won't get too many mails each
> day.

  I'm afraid you've chosen the wrong place, mate :)

> GMT is only CET minus one, right? I think you guys are a bit ahead of
> time, cause I already received the christmas edition. 

  Normal, an Amiga magazine can't possibly take the risk of being delayed
by a PC bug of some kind.

> I personally think that each person should decide for himself wether
> he needs it or not. 

  I'd rather say each person should decide /when/ he'll need it; or maybe
not :)

  Patrice - Almost successfully installed

On Thu, 18 Nov 1999 19:02:38 +0100, Vincenzo Morra (vmorra@morres.demon.co.uk) wrote:
> Hello Andrew
> 
> On 17-Nov-99, Andrew Crowe wrote:
> 
> >   Well, unless you have a small harddrive, simply copy your SYS:
> > partition to a safe place (a diferent partition) and then install OS3.5
> > 
> >   If it fails, copy it back ;)
> 
> Well, what I wanted toknow is if anybody has managed to install it without
> too much pain.

Yes.  I installed straight to a new hard drive, and whilst I was at it I
installed PFS 3 too (but not to the boot partition just yet ;) ...

The only pain I have had has been down to my own stupidity (not copying all
of the required settings files across and wondering why Genesis dosnt work.
 Boy did I kick myself over THAT one!  :)

Kev

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Alan L.M. Buxey wrote:

> ..and your machine is?  I actually had to copy the AmigaOSROMUpdate from
> CD into my devs: drawer!

A4000 desktop. Was that because you put "yes" to the 4-way IDE install
option?

> anyway,p glad to hear that you're up and running now

Cheers! It's Dad's machine BTW. (I didn't mention that before). My A4000
with Cyberstorm 040 worked OK first time.

Regards,
Jonny.
--
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time you need them, chances are you won't be needing them again.

Hallo Maarten

On 18-Nov-99, je schreef:

> Hello
> I've just upgraded to 3.1 Kick and now my screen is corrupted.
> I used to work in a 656x495 screen, but now I can't reach the far right
> of my screen anymore (well I can reach it, but my mousepointer disappears)
> and on the left side the is a small border that my mouse can't reach.
> 
> What is causing this problem.

  I can't tell, but that happens when you use a hacked monitor driver. Maybe
you could check if there's something written in the icon's tooltypes ( like
TOTCLKS and TOTROWS followed by numbers. If there is, it means it that it
has  been altered by some program like MonEd... Otherwise, another idea 
would be to remove the overscan.pref file from Prefs/Env-Archive/sys and
start afresh.

  If neither work... I leave it to a real expert :)

  Dag!

  Patrice

Hi all
And what about the"junk"string added to all
execute command windows??
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Dag Patrice

patrice champarou <pmcham-@club-internet.fr> wrote: 
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=37297

>   I can't tell, but that happens when you use a hacked monitor
driver. Maybe
> you could check if there's something written in the icon's tooltypes
( like
> TOTCLKS and TOTROWS followed by numbers. If there is, it means it
that it
> has  been altered by some program like MonEd... Otherwise, another
idea 
> would be to remove the overscan.pref file from Prefs/Env-Archive/sys
and
> start afresh.

It is hacked and not reconised by 3.1 Kick.

> 
>   If neither work... I leave it to a real expert :)
> 
>   Dag!
> 
>   Patrice
Au revoir
maarten

> 

Although I can see the newicons on my workbench or in YAM, some other
programs (like autostart) don#t show the icons.
whats wrong?

thanx
maarten

Installed 3.5 and it worked like a Miami-install
Flawless.

gr8
maarten

On 18-Nov-99, Ben wrote:

> Since people have been crap at sending in Gallery images this issue (we
> only have three entries), we'd like to have a page of extra opinion about
> OS3.5.

  I'd be willing to send something, but I don't want to be too ridiculous.
I don't mean by making obvious grammar mistakes ( that would show that AF
is also read abroad ) but by asking a question which probably has already
been answered.

  Here we go : Apparently 3.5 enables windows to open a bit faster, and 
icons to show much faster. The trouble is that some Prefs programs like
Palette seem to take a lot more Chip Ram than previously, and load with
a delay. Same for any background picture, which keep me waiting for 
minutes (!) and even my TM docks which only appear ten or twenty seconds
after everything has been loaded on bootup.

  Is it because I have no Gfx card, and only a 030 Blizzard? 
Running FBlit doesn't seem to change anything, I've also tried CPU with
different options... no use!

  Any idea, anyone?

  Patrice

On 18-Nov-99 riksweeney@hotmail.com said: 


> This is true. There is also one called Defiant which is another
> StarTrek ship. Don't worry about them, Babylon5 has been on my system
> for ages.

Speaking of Babylon 5...

The Babylon 5 computer game for the PeeCee has been cancelled (swines) half
way through because /"it wouldn't look state of the art when it was
released"/ so... couldn't Clickboom, Digital Images or someone pick it up
and finish it and bring it back where it belongs. On our beloved Amigas.
(That make one or two upgrade to PPC and get a few back from the darkside) 


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I am now pretty sure that this is AMPlifier's
fault as in AmigaAMP it plays back perfectly
BUT I can't use AmigaAMP as I experienced
some very strange problems with it.
1)The "JUNK" stuff happens when I run it
2)I don't know why but when I try to 
playback ANY song the FF/RW slider
starts moving left-right-left-right
and it stops playback with no reason.
It works perfectly on a friend's Amiga
identical to mine,only that his has
a BVPPC and scsi.
If anyone can help...
           Bye
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> On 18-Nov-99 riksweeney@hotmail.com said: 
> > 
> Speaking of Babylon 5...
> 
> The Babylon 5 computer game for the PeeCee has been cancelled (swines) half
> way through because /"it wouldn't look state of the art when it was
> released"/ so... couldn't Clickboom, Digital Images or someone pick it up
> and finish it and bring it back where it belongs. On our beloved Amigas.
> (That make one or two upgrade to PPC and get a few back from the darkside) 

That's a nice idea, but I doubt even ClickBoom have the budget for
that.  Perhaps we ought to ask them?
Peace
Zanthras

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On Thu, 18 Nov 1999 17:32:43 +0000, Ben Vost wibbled...

> Wassup? Why is no-one sending us reader reviews; 

I'll do an NC3 review if you want. When it gets delivered, that is :/

> AFCD surveys; 

Urrrm... do you still do those? I've never really paid attention to it.

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Hi

Could someone give me all the servers and numbers etc for NTL's net
connection? I don't fancy wrestling with some dappy blonde on the end of a
telephone line (although some people pay good money for this ;))

Mash
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Cannibal's recipe book: How to Serve Your Fellow Man.

Hi,

    As a lot of people have or are towering up there machines (A1200 owners
using EZ-Tower and Power Computing tower etc.) has there been a decent test
on Graphic cards recently and which is the best.

See You
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                       Ken 




  

Hi

Anyone wanna render my compo entry for me? eta 4 days is a bit much for me
;)

ps. is there any discount on IFW if you're already on the ACUP?

Mash - 030 powered
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My lips fall of and everybody starts to stare...

Hi Ben,

On 18-Nov-99 you wrote:

> Wassup? Why is no-one sending us reader reviews; AFCD surveys; gallery
> entries; reader games; readerstuff entries; WB screengrabs, etc.?

It's nearly christmas - we're all too busy drinking and partying to send
contributions ;)

Actually, the reason you're not getting any contributions from me is that you
can't put mods on the CD and that's about the only creative (does email
count? ;) use I put my Amiga to.  I guess I could send a WB screengrab
though since mine looks so great :)

Martin.
-- 
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Hi All,

Anyone on the AFB List had received the NetConnect3 CD or
knows what is hapening with Chris Wiles from Active Technologies?

I Pre-Ordered the NC2>NC3 upgrade on September and I am still
waiting for my order.

The problem is that me (and also others NC users) are waiting
for the New NetConnect3, but Chris-Wiles apparently is to busy and he
is Not answering the phone(apart from a strange voice message, saying
they could not accept orders and could not give support), not
answering emails....

Are Active still trading?

It'd be nice just to be told something; just a message on the
website saying "All orders will be sent out on ...." would be good.

All the Best,

Ulises A. Rodriguez, Ph.D.

______________________________________________________

Hello, the message I sent to Clare, as requested by Ben. I'll see what I =
can do about my Screenshots.  How exactly do you want them sent by email?=
  Last time i sent you some they were not included on the cd.


*** Begin of forwarded message ***

Hello,

My twopence about the new )S for my beloved Miggy is that it's great.  I =
can actually have the ram icon I want installed on Workbench and booting =
with no-startup I no longer have to resize the window to be centred on my=
 screen.  Now all I need is for all the icons to work properly with DOpus=
!

TTFN,
-- =

Bifford the Youngest
(Sam Byford)


Visit my site:
  http://www.biffordyoungest.u-net.com
 sam@biffordyoungest.u-net.com
 ICQ: 52983236
 IRC:  IRCNet #AmIRC (as Bifford)
    or IRCNet #Pub (as The_Kook)

Hello,

Does someone know how to get a BlizzardPPC working again after a flashupdate
failure.
 
Kind regards
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On Thu, 18 Nov 1999 17:01:16 PST, Ulises A. Rodriguez, Ph.D. wibbled...

> Anyone on the AFB List had received the NetConnect3 CD or
> knows what is hapening with Chris Wiles from Active Technologies?

A lovely edit of all the mails on the NC list :)
Congratulations, sir :)

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On Wed, Nov 17, 1999 at 06:43:33PM +0100, Matthew O'Neill wrote:
> I have never in my life heard of or seen a machine which cant use a no-click
> util correctly. I've seen 1200's from several years, old ones, new ones,
> escom ones...600's are fine, as are 3000 and 4000 (deskdtop, tower and
> those other ones they made) That leaves the 500. 500+, 1000 and 2000. Quite
> frankly if anyone is using them, tough. God knows how many times AF, CU and
> the rest nagged old machine owners to upgrade. Anyone here prove me wrong?

Some A1010s, apparantly. Some other drives. It depends on the drive
mechanism, and whether or not it's smart enough to not actually try to
move the drive head to track -1 when the OS asks it to. This is not
guaranteed to work on any drives - the fact that it does on most of them
is down to luck rather than anything else. Including it as an option which
defaulted to off might have been a better option, but given that there's a
(small) possibility of damaging your drive if it doesn't support it and
you try to use it, I don't think that not including the option is too
unreasonable.

-- 
Matthew Garrett | mjg59@cam.ac.uk

> The Babylon 5 computer game for the PeeCee has been cancelled
(swines) half
> way through because /"it wouldn't look state of the art when it was
> released"/ so... couldn't Clickboom, Digital Images or someone pick
it up
> and finish it and bring it back where it belongs. On our beloved
Amigas.
> (That make one or two upgrade to PPC and get a few back from the
darkside) 

To help with this task I plan to email those two companies, plus
Hyperion software. However, I doubt Clickboom would do it, as they are
a tad busy at the moment (what with Euroburn and Nightlong (and Z?)!).

But then again, Homeworld would also be a good conversion, as
previously mentioned...

Paul
=====
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Visit the Amipal website: http://www.geocities.com/amipal/

> I am now pretty sure that this is AMPlifier's
> fault as in AmigaAMP it plays back perfectly
> BUT I can't use AmigaAMP as I experienced
> some very strange problems with it.

Both AmigaAMP and AMPlifier produce very poor sound quality on my PPC
Amiga, even after altering the settings quite a bit. I always use
Soundplayer for my MP3s, and it works perfectly.

Paul
=====
It was...fun.
Visit the Amipal website: http://www.geocities.com/amipal/

I suddenly have a need for a good database program.

What is available for Amiga? I need to cross reference a number of fields in
one go.  I'm using Superbase (from CU) atm, but was wondering if there was
anything else.

Please let me know.

Andrew McCombe

Alan - please mail me regarding the B&P manual.  I lost your private address
when we had to re-install this damn PC.

Thanks and apologies to everyone else.

andrew@instant-print.co.uk

Matthew O'Neill said, 

> I have never in my life heard of or seen a machine which cant use a no-click
> util correctly. I've seen 1200's from several years, old ones, new ones,
> escom ones...600's are fine, as are 3000 and 4000 (deskdtop, tower and
> those other ones they made) That leaves the 500. 500+, 1000 and 2000. Quite
> frankly if anyone is using them, tough. God knows how many times AF, CU and
> the rest nagged old machine owners to upgrade. Anyone here prove me wrong?

It's not the age of the machine, it's the age of the drive. I'm still
using an external drive I bought for my A500 in 1987. It's not qa
Commodore one, so no-click does work, but if it had been an A1010,
automatic no-click would break it.

Secondly, having an A2000 doesn't mean you haven't upgraded. My A2000,
like many others, has had a serious amount of money spent on it over the
years. I haven't installed 3.5 on it yet because I need a 3.1 machine,
but I wouldn't expect any problems. An A2000 offers almost everything an
A400 has except AGA, Zorro3 and overheating. Shame it's PSU died
yesterday...


Neil
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> Hello,
> I just joined the afb ML just now, hoping I won't get too 
> many mails each day.
> I'll post some dumb remarks to get going ;)

As always. Hi Brecht!

(BTW Virtual Memory still isn't going in ;)
 
> GMT is only CET minus one, right?

I think you'll find that CET is GMT+1 actually ;)
Remember, GMT *is* time. CET is just rubbish ;)

> "It costs less than 2p a day since you last had the 
> oppurtunity to upgrade your OS, so get real and get OS3.5",
> Ben Vost

A quote after my own heart ;)

> I guess that it was about time! I personally think that each 
> person should decide for himself wether he needs it or not.
> If he wants to run software that requires OS3.5, he should
> buy it of course :)

Are you going to buy it then, Brecht?

-- 
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Distributed Systems Support
Computer Centre
University of Leicester

"thomas hurst" wrote: 

> PFS has recovery tools, and I'm yet to try to recover anything with
SFS. As
> far as I'm concerned, nothing on AmigaOS beats FFS in this area.
DiskSlav is cool,.. but the PFS tools *dont work*, see review in AF131.

> I've had SFS slow down so much it takes around 10 seconds for a disk
update.
Was true, not any more,..
 
> Who could care less? AmigaOS is not a multiuser system.
It is if you use MUFS, and most unix (gg) tools & mSQL expect it to be.

> Yes, I use SFS on a single, non-vital partition. I recently moved
Thor over
> to it, to get around FFS's shite seeking speed.
Yes it cool, YAM has amazed me recently. (my partition is now called
FLASH:)

-matthew

hi,

> Wassup? Why is no-one sending us reader reviews; AFCD surveys; gallery
> entries; reader games; readerstuff entries; WB screengrabs, etc.?

oh...noone? I might have to send some of my junk then

alan

On Thu, 18 Nov 1999, Oliver Esberger wrote:

> It even matters what card you use. There is no use to tell people my GFX
> software is better than yours! because it really depends on what gfx
> card you have.

yes, of course! If you have PicassoIV, you want to be running P96. 

As for P96 being the 'weakling' - i've always thought of P96 as being
the better of the two on functionality..after all, with its PiP supprot
etc (you have to download extra archives to get video layer in cgx)

alan

On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, Matthew O'Neill wrote:

> > Ok, got a small problem. Bought a new HD to go with OS3.5, a 6.4gig
> > beauty. Prob is, OS3.5 is having trouble formatting any partitions over
> > 4gig...which wa sstarnge I as tohught 3.5 had support for larger
> > drives, then again, maybe I have to install the filesystem manually?
> 
> Why would you want a single partition that big!!??

good question ;-)

IIRC the *drive size* is now 64bit - huge limit (2 terrabytes?)

the *partition/file size* is still 32bit - 4Gb limit (like e2fs on
Linux)

alan

On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, Matthew O'Neill wrote:

> I have never in my life heard of or seen a machine which cant use a no-click
> util correctly. I've seen 1200's from several years, old ones, new ones,

i'm in contact with two escom A1200's which cant use noclick

> those other ones they made) That leaves the 500. 500+, 1000 and 2000. Quite
> frankly if anyone is using them, tough. God knows how many times AF, CU and
> the rest nagged old machine owners to upgrade. Anyone here prove me wrong?

sorry, but if there are people with A500's buying os3.5 then they
deserve the best OS support too

alan

On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, Matthew O'Neill wrote:

> Hey Ben!, how about getting a wet towel onto P5's arses and get them to
> bundle 2097 with the Gx boards? they screwed up royally before by not doing
> a quake deal, please don't let them give up a great chance like this!!

why Phase5? they've screwed up things too many times. why not Met@Box,
Escena or H&P with their PoP boxes.. imho, having a PoP box bundled with
WO2097 and HereticII would be a great package

alan

Tim Seifert said, 

> Hello Neil,

>>>> The latter is the fault of the browsers. They should display the ALT
>>>> text when the image isn't loaded. A blind user should be OK because
>>>> a speaking browser ought to handle the ALT text. If there's no ALT
>>>> text it's the fault of the page author, and just as limiting as
>>>> individual images without such text.
>  
>>> Ah, but the alt text only mentions the one image, not all the links
>>> you could follow from different parts of the image. And that's only
>>> if they bother to do this.
>  
>> Check the HTML spec, ALT is a valid, and required, attribute of the
>> AREA tag.

> I know that.  What I said was that authors rarely put in useful
> information there, if they actually bother to at all.

That's the authors' problem. If they want to write HTML that break the
rules they should expect a reduction in visitors.

> And for image
> maps you're highly likely to only see one alt text (for the image
> shown), not changing alt text for each link that can be picked from
> within it.

That's what I've been trying to say. It's the browsers' fault for not
displaying the ALT text for each link. The HTML spec clearly states that
the ALT text is for use when browsing with images turned off, so even
graphical browsers should show the text before the image loads.

> Completely bastardised example, but

> image URI.....  alt text (probably blank, or just saying picture)
> hotpoint URI    no alt text, no useful name
> hotpoint URI    no alt text, no useful name
> hotpoint URI    no alt text, no useful name
> etc...

So mail the webmaster and tell him the W3C validator reported x00
errors on his pages.


Neil
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_Replying to a message_:

  From:  Kevin Fairhurst <redvers@bigfoot.com>
   Via:  Amiga Format mailing list <afb@egroups.com>
 Dated:  Friday, 19-Nov-99, 04:48:19
 About:  [afb] Re: New Amiga Virus:Babylon5 


Hello Kevin,

>>> My Amy is infected with a virus called
>>> Babylon5 which VirusZ don't recognise
>>> At the moment it adds the word "JUNK"
>>> in the execute command window!!!
 
>> Doesn't DefIcons do that when you double-click
>> empty files?
 
> I think so .... although don't quote me on that  ;-)
 
>> Have you tried killing the Babylon5 task?

> I wouldn't kill it! I think it is one of the WarpOS tasks!! I've just
> gone WarpOS (with the installation of OS3.5) and I too now have a
> Babylon5, as well as a Defiant (and probably other sci-fi related task
> names) ...

If programmers gave their tasks more sensible names, people wouldn't
have to worry so much about this, AND it'd be a lot easier to track
down stupid program behaviour.

Bye,
Tim.  (B.A. T.L.M.N.)

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(Modbury, near Adelaide, South Australia)
   
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***  DO  NOT  SEND  JUNK  MAIL  *** 

_Replying to a message_:

  From:  Brecht Machiels <darklite@flashmail.com>
   Via:  Amiga Format mailing list <afb@egroups.com>
 Dated:  Friday, 19-Nov-99, 03:14:14
 About:  [afb] Some remarks 


Hello Brecht,

> GMT is only CET minus one, right?

Whatever your timezone really is, it's GMT+/- *something* is your
timezone, not the other way around.  GMT's the fixed, standard, part of
the equation.   ;-)

(If one is the correct time value,  CET = GMT + 1  Not  GMT = CET -1.)

Oh, and prepare for AFB mail to be a deluge.  It's the biggest (traffic)
mailing list I'm on.

Bye,
Tim.  (B.A. T.L.M.N.)

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> why Phase5? they've screwed up things too many times.
;)
> why not Met@Box,
> Escena or H&P with their PoP boxes.. imho, having a PoP box bundled
with
> WO2097 and HereticII would be a great package

Can anybody please explain *exactly* what H&P plan to do with these PoP
boxes? Are they making them themselves or buying off of other h/w
companies? How soon until we can play with one of these beauties? Give
me some info (please)!

Paul
=====
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Visit the Amipal website: http://www.geocities.com/amipal/

hi,

> Never seen that, can't see it on AmiNet. I take it it's commercial?

yes. but on a coverdisk at some point in time (CU Amiga)
 
> > have yo thought about PFS3 ?
> 
> Yes, I think it's a rip off for a filesystem, sorry :)

:-)  I can agree in parts..and they are taking the pi*s with their name
GREED devlopments :-|
  
> <quote>
> Anyone here know how to get YAM to close when it's locked up due to dodgy
> message?

never had lockup - you cant close the read window when recieving mail -
but you can read next message, previous message etc
 
> funny how yam's been saying "2670 of 3098 bytes" for over 5 minutes now

mailserve problem
 
> too bad killall -9 yam wont work, heh

break works
 
> that mail crashed yam, heh

what mail is that then? I receieve megabyte messages daily
 
> Says it all, I think ;)

no. uninformed text searching through an IRC log. search for anything on
any IRC log and you'll see people moaning about it. even Thor ;-)
 
> Why? I get around 450 mails/day, if I felt they were all important I'd never
> get anything done!  Besides which, AFB is pretty damn noisy.

the noise is something that needs to be cleaned up, agreed

alan

hi,

> Nah, gcc forever ;P

egcs?
 
> As for fewer hacks and improved stability, well..
> 
> 24.Workbench:> uptime
> 23:41:20, 8:22, load: 0.20, 0.05, 0.00

8 hours? Uptime on my Amiga is measured in days ;-)
 
> 24.Workbench:> showpatches | grep -c " " in:
> 114
> 

:-)
 
alan

Matthew J Fletcher said, 

> DiskSlav is cool,.. but the PFS tools *dont work*, see review in AF131.

I think you'll find Rich said he couldn't test them because he couldn't
break the partition. I had the same problem with the AA review. The
point about recovering from a quick format is valid, and this is fixed
in PFS 3.3. I spoke to Michiel Pelt at Cologne and he reckoned 3.3
should be available in a couple of weeks.


Neil
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Alan L.M. Buxey said, 

> As for P96 being the 'weakling' - i've always thought of P96 as being
> the better of the two on functionality..after all, with its PiP supprot
> etc (you have to download extra archives to get video layer in cgx)

Not with CGX4, you just add a tooltype to the monitor icon. I'm sure I
didn't download anything extra for CGX4 (unless you count the updates).


Neil
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Alan L.M. Buxey said, 
> 
> > As for P96 being the 'weakling' - i've always thought of 
> > P96 as being the better of the two on functionality..after
> > all, with its PiP supprot etc (you have to download extra
> > archives to get video layer in cgx)
> 
> Not with CGX4, you just add a tooltype to the monitor icon.
> I'm sure I didn't download anything extra for CGX4 (unless
> you count the updates).

See? Feature-wise they *seem* evenly matched. I want to know
which cards they work best on, which ones aren't supported,
which system is faster for such-and-such operations, which
one is better for general use rather than specialised stuff.

I want a BIG BIG REVIEW! In the absence of any new graphics
cards, a review of the newest versions of the RTG systems
might be in order seeing as they've just been upgraded
fairly majorly recently (re 2.0 version and 4.2 OS3.5 compat.)

-- 
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Distributed Systems Support
Computer Centre
University of Leicester

> Hello
> I've just upgraded to 3.1 Kick and now my screen is corrupted.
> I used to work in a 656x495 screen, but now I can't reach the 
> far right of my screen anymore (well I can reach it, but my
> mousepointer disappears) and on the left side the is a small
> border that my mouse can't reach.
> 
> What is causing this problem.

"Productivity" is causing the problem, I'm afraid. I assume
you installed the ROMs, yes? Is this AFTER you installed the
new Workbench system?

It just pushes the chipset too hard..

> (And I didn't even install my 3.5)

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Distributed Systems Support
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University of Leicester

> I spoke to an Amiga-dealer today and he told me that there was a big
> rumour in Cologne that Collas and whatshisname are trying to buy the
> new Amiga-plans from Amiga. Anyone heard anything more about this?

If you mean the MCC, then it's *possible* that they may license it.
The names are strange though - Collas and McEwen? Why those two?
I want to know where Fleecy is in this, as he's McWwen's business
partner. Maybe Collas joined up with them both? But the strangeness
of the two names together and the notable absence of the other makes
it hard to beleive..

Try not to beleive everything you hear - it was, after all, a RUMOUR.

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Distributed Systems Support
Computer Centre
University of Leicester

On Tue, 16 Nov 1999 19:24:30 +0000 (GMT), Alan L.M. Buxey (kcci1@central.susx.ac.uk) wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 16 Nov 1999, Ben Vost wrote:
> 
> > The last time I looked at it it was very good, and comprehensive to boot,
> > but only really dealt with Germany. This version is supposed to cover the
> > UK in the same kind of detail, so, fingers crossed...
> 
> review in the next issue??
> 
> Hope it can handle where the A23 meets the A27 just nort of brighton...

It says to follow the B259 to the A27, not the A23 ....

That's you told, eh?  ;-)

Kev

-- 
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"sealey, m." wrote: 
> Try not to beleive everything you hear - it was, after all, a RUMOUR.
Its a pitty they dont make amiga t-shirts any more (idea ?), cos i
would use my fancy new tranfer printer to put that on the back !!!

-matthew

> "sealey, m." wrote: 
> > Try not to beleive everything you hear - it was, after all, 
> > a RUMOUR.
>
> Its a pitty they dont make amiga t-shirts any more (idea ?), cos i
> would use my fancy new tranfer printer to put that on the back !!!

ROTFLMAO!

I'm off to find a REALLY high resolution Boing Ball and a white
t-shirt ;)

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Computer Centre
University of Leicester

_Replying to a message_:

  From:  Thomas Hurst <tom.hurst@clara.net>
   Via:  Amiga Format mailing list <afb@egroups.com>
 Dated:  Wednesday, 17-Nov-99, 09:42:30
 About:  [afb] Re: Using Root to login. 


Hello Thomas,

> Yes, it's nice to have a GUI, and I'm not disputing that, but why does
> having a GUI rule out having a filesystem based db, which makes it
> sooooooooooooo much easier to automate stuff. Yam has a text based
> config, as do MANY other applications, but it certainly doesn't rule
> out having a GUI front end for them... it just makes it so much more
> flexible.

Thus far, all programs I've seen that use a text based (human readable)
config file, seem to take an age to parse the data.  It beats me, I
don't see why it should be so slow.
 
>> Genesis just won't connect to my ISPs for me, and I'm not completely
>> devoid of knowledge at configuring these types of things, so I can't
>> pin it down to anything in particular.

> Strange... maybe your ISP only allows MS-CHAP or something (if they
> do, this means they suck, btw :)

Nup, I'm not using MS-CHAP to connect with Miami.

Bye,
Tim.  (B.A. T.L.M.N.)

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"sealey, m." <mws-@leicester.ac.uk> wrote: 
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=37341
> > "sealey, m." wrote: 
> > > Try not to beleive everything you hear - it was, after all, 
> > > a RUMOUR.
> >
> > Its a pitty they dont make amiga t-shirts any more (idea ?), cos i
> > would use my fancy new tranfer printer to put that on the back !!!
> 
> ROTFLMAO!
> 
> I'm off to find a REALLY high resolution Boing Ball and a white
> t-shirt ;)
> 
> -- 
> Matt Sealey mws2@le.ac.uk 
> Distributed Systems Support
> Computer Centre
> University of Leicester

> "sealey, m." <mws-@leicester.ac.uk> wrote: 
> ROTFLMAO!
> I'm off to find a REALLY high resolution Boing Ball and a white
> t-shirt ;)

Oi,... thats (C) my idea... (i`ll go 30/70) on the royalties...

p.s sorry about that post.. (i blame IE)

Tim Seifert said, 

>> I wouldn't kill it! I think it is one of the WarpOS tasks!! I've just
>> gone WarpOS (with the installation of OS3.5) and I too now have a
>> Babylon5, as well as a Defiant (and probably other sci-fi related task
>> names) ...

> If programmers gave their tasks more sensible names, people wouldn't
> have to worry so much about this,

Why? datatypes.library is a pretty sensible name, didn't stop it from
containing a virus.


Neil
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Hi
On my Amiga Sound Player plays mp3s like a cow.The output
is VERY DULL.
Bye
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Is it true that PFS/2 does not work with OS3/5 for hard
drives/partitions, bigger than 4gb?

- Jace.

> > Yes, it's nice to have a GUI, and I'm not disputing that, but why does
> > having a GUI rule out having a filesystem based db, which makes it
> > sooooooooooooo much easier to automate stuff. Yam has a text based
> > config, as do MANY other applications, but it certainly doesn't rule
> > out having a GUI front end for them... it just makes it so much more
> > flexible.
> 
> Thus far, all programs I've seen that use a text based (human readable)
> config file, seem to take an age to parse the data.  It beats me, I
> don't see why it should be so slow.

You could get around this by having two configs - text based and binary
When you make changes to a text file, you run aprogram to compile it to
the binary version. Also, you could decompile the binary to get an
uptodate text file, incase you change the config within the program.

-curry
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_Replying to a message_:

  From:  Alan L.M. Buxey <kcci1@central.susx.ac.uk>
   Via:  Amiga Format mailing list <afb@egroups.com>
 Dated:  Friday, 19-Nov-99, 22:08:56
 About:  [afb] Re: Why buy OS3.5 (was: The new issue) 


Hello Alan,

>> As for fewer hacks and improved stability, well..
>> 
>> 24.Workbench:> uptime
>> 23:41:20, 8:22, load: 0.20, 0.05, 0.00

> 8 hours? Uptime on my Amiga is measured in days ;-)

A2000, 2.04 (2nd Amiga), the only patches are setpatch, and drive
clicking killer util.  It's been running for at least 10 days without
rebooting, and that was only because I turned it off for the peace and
quiet.  I've been leaving Term, DOpus, and Miami running all that time
too.  The only thing I've turned off is the monitor and MODEM.

Bye,
Tim.  (B.A. T.L.M.N.)

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_Replying to a message_:

  From:  Alan L.M. Buxey <kcci1@central.susx.ac.uk>
   Via:  Amiga Format mailing list <afb@egroups.com>
 Dated:  Friday, 19-Nov-99, 22:05:02
 About:  [afb] Re: Oh dear... something's broke 


Hello Alan,

>> too bad killall -9 yam wont work, heh

It's not a CLI process.

> break works

You wouldn't care to elaborate on that please?  All too occasionally I
have YAM going stupid making an infinitely huge file in the temp
directory (when trying to reply to some message), that I can't get it
to cleanly abort (just have to kill and reboot).

> no. uninformed text searching through an IRC log. search for anything
> on any IRC log and you'll see people moaning about it. even Thor ;-)

I could moan about Thor too.  More useful, and accurate, documentation
would help, it might help me find why it doesn't work properly.  Though
I've just registered it, more because I've been using it for so long,
and should pay for it, than I consider wanting to use it as a mailer
though

Now that I've got a bit of cash, I'm playing catchup with a few things. 
One of the things I'm wondering about though is, is MUI any better if
registered (I don't care about fancy tarting up abilities, just is it
any more useful or reliable)?

Bye,
Tim.  (B.A. T.L.M.N.)

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matthew o'neill <mas-@myamiga.freeserve.co.uk> wrote: 

> Why would you want a single partition that big!!??
> 
> Mash - 

Not the partitions size as such, but the area beyond the 4gig...besides
I have already used 2 and 3 gig partitions on the past to store video,
sound and CDDA data on...

- Jace.

Ben Vost wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Wassup? Why is no-one sending us reader reviews; AFCD surveys; gallery
> entries; reader games; readerstuff entries; WB screengrabs, etc.?
> 

I'm saving up all my artwork so that when I send it all in there's a
better chance of getting the 50 prize.
I also want to re render some of my picture on my amiga, now that I can
convert and render some of my Truespace objects. Unfortunatley, magic
link doesn't recognise PC style Caligari objects, so I have to save them
as dfx files and loose all my material info.

I'll send what I have tonight, if you're really desperate for art.
Unfortunatley I can't send my software, as I either never finish it, or
it stops working when I tidy up the code =(

regulations,
-curry

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Hello Maarten

Sorry but I don't get it; you wrote:
 
> It is hacked and not reconised by 3.1 Kick.

  So why don't you remove the tooltypes, see how it works and eventually 
hack it again, or use one of the readymade 'newmons' you can find on 
Aminet?
  More to it, I'm pretty sure you'll have to remove the overscan.pref too;
maybe you should do that first, it's so easy to change that there's no 
risk of losing the features of your previous config. ( and if you're not 
sure, you can always copy the file somewhere! ) 

  Cheers,

  Patrice

tim seifert wrote: 
> Now that I've got a bit of cash, I'm playing catchup with a few
things. 
> One of the things I'm wondering about though is, is MUI any better if
> registered (I don't care about fancy tarting up abilities, just is it
> any more useful or reliable)?
You get loads of fancy tarting up abilites (dogh!),.. and the ability
to put a pic of yourself in the prefs program.
more reliablty = nope
better = nope
updates = nope
feeling you did the right thing = yep

-matthew

> Tim Seifert said, 
> 
> > If programmers gave their tasks more sensible names, people wouldn't
> > have to worry so much about this,
> 
> Why? datatypes.library is a pretty sensible name, didn't stop it from
> containing a virus.

Yeah, but a task called "Datatypes" in your system is a little
less worrying than one called "Klingon High Council", though.
It causes people uneccessary worry.

Obviously the worse scenario would be having a task called
"Workbench Public Clipboard" in your system and having IT
contain a virus, because it looks so tame. But at least
people don't worry about it, and at least they won't trigger
false alarms..
-- 
Matt Sealey mws2@le.ac.uk 
Distributed Systems Support
Computer Centre
University of Leicester

> Is it true that PFS/2 does not work with OS3/5 for hard
> drives/partitions, bigger than 4gb?

No.

-- 
Matt Sealey mws2@le.ac.uk 
Distributed Systems Support
Computer Centre
University of Leicester

> You wouldn't care to elaborate on that please?  All too occasionally =
I
> have YAM going stupid making an infinitely huge file in the temp
> directory (when trying to reply to some message), that I can't get it
> to cleanly abort (just have to kill and reboot).

Easy. Go get Scout off Aminet, load the Tasks window, and click on
"Break" a few times ;) YAM *will* quit if it's not dead, and if it
is dead you can manually Freeze and Remove the task, and then
remove it's windows etc. from the other parts of the system..

> Now that I've got a bit of cash, I'm playing catchup with a=20
> few things. One of the things I'm wondering about though is, is MUI
> any better if registered (I don't care about fancy tarting up
> abilities, just is it any more useful or reliable)?

More reliable? No. More useful? Debatable. Some people (me included)
would class being able to make the thing look that little bit more
pretty and the ability to change all the prefs is worth a measly
=A315..

--=20
Matt Sealey mws2@le.ac.uk=20
Distributed Systems Support
Computer Centre
University of Leicester

On Fri, Nov 19, 1999 at 01:49:21AM -0800, Matthew J Fletcher wrote:

> > Who could care less? AmigaOS is not a multiuser system.
> It is if you use MUFS, and most unix (gg) tools & mSQL expect it to be.

No it's not - without memory protection, a system is so insecure that it
might as well be single user.

-- 
Matthew Garrett | mjg59@cam.ac.uk

caradog said, 

> Is it true that PFS/2 does not work with OS3/5 for hard
> drives/partitions, bigger than 4gb?

No, it's not true.


Neil
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The UK's first Amiga-only internet access provider
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Eventually, you must pay for your sins. Exact change, please.

> Now that I've got a bit of cash, I'm playing catchup with a few
things. 
> One of the things I'm wondering about though is, is MUI any better if
> registered (I don't care about fancy tarting up abilities, just is it
> any more useful or reliable)?

Yes, it is better; more configurable. Seems more reliable, and you can
order it over the web from http://www.sasg.com

Sealey, M. said, 

>> Tim Seifert said, 
>> 
>> > If programmers gave their tasks more sensible names, people wouldn't
>> > have to worry so much about this,
>> 
>> Why? datatypes.library is a pretty sensible name, didn't stop it from
>> containing a virus.

> Yeah, but a task called "Datatypes" in your system is a little
> less worrying than one called "Klingon High Council", though.
> It causes people uneccessary worry.

Exactly. Everyone's busy worrying about Klingon High Council, meanwhile
datatypes.library is mailing their passwords to DC.

> Obviously the worse scenario would be having a task called
> "Workbench Public Clipboard" in your system and having IT
> contain a virus, because it looks so tame. But at least
> people don't worry about it, and at least they won't trigger
> false alarms..

Which is better, worrying about something harmless or not worrying
about something dangerous?


Neil
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The UK's first Amiga-only internet access provider
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On 17 Nov 1999, Thomas Hurst wrote:

> Yes... I think too many people forget poorly sited people; mention Lynx
> compatbility to most people and they'll laugh at you - "Get a real
> browser... this is the 90's you know" - but Lynx gives a pretty good idea of
> what blind/partially sighted people will, erm, "see".

true. and these same pages will not be nice to view with the new
mobile phone WWW system either!
 
alan

Hello Matthew

On 19-Nov-99, you wrote:
> "sealey, m." wrote: 
>> Try not to beleive everything you hear - it was, after all, a RUMOUR.
> Its a pitty they dont make amiga t-shirts any more (idea ?), cos i
> would use my fancy new tranfer printer to put that on the back !!!

  Cos I dont beleive its a tranfer pitty... hey, how will I improve my
spelling, that's what I'm here for :)

  Patrice

Hello M.

On 19-Nov-99, you wrote:

> "Productivity" is causing the problem, I'm afraid. I assume
> you installed the ROMs, yes? Is this AFTER you installed the
> new Workbench system?

  IIIIIIIIII'm sorry, Mister Sealyyyyyyyyy ( no, I'm not drunk; not quite )
but my friend Maaaaaartin said he ( hips! ) had, er... er... NOT
installed 3.5 yeaps - er, yeep! - nope, YET!

  And here is the... hm, ahm, em... evidence, in your ( what's the word? )
er... mail!
> 
> It just pushes the chipset too hard..
> 
>> (And I didn't even install my 3.5)

Respectful Regards - Patreess, going back to, mmm... OT 

Hello Alan

On 19-Nov-99, you wrote:
 
> sorry, but if there are people with A500's buying os3.5 then they
> deserve the best OS support too

  Aaaaaah! What if I want to install 3.5 on my A1000? Can I load this
3.1 kickstart from disk, too?

  Patrice - Always wished he could stick to A1000, greatest machine ever
            made. DriveNoClick perfectly working, as long as I remember.

On Thu, 18 Nov 1999, Maarten Draijer wrote:

> I've just upgraded to 3.1 Kick and now my screen is corrupted.
> I used to work in a 656x495 screen, but now I can't reach the far right
> of
> my screen anymore (well I can reach it, but my mousepointer disappears)
> and on
> the left side the is a small border that my mouse can't reach.

change your screen prefs / overscan prefs and maybe monitor driver - the
os3.1 settings are different#

alan

On Thu, 18 Nov 1999, Alex Furmanski wrote:

> He was standing, right?  One of my friends is quite insistent he was
> hanging...

he was standing...which matches the tale told of the hermit killer.

alan

On Thu, 18 Nov 1999, Vincenzo Morra wrote:

> Well, what I wanted toknow is if anybody has managed to install it without
> too much pain.

aye. no pain here. 

alan

On Thu, 18 Nov 1999, Jonathan M. Dudley wrote:

> A4000 desktop. Was that because you put "yes" to the 4-way IDE install
> option?

yes. 
 
> Cheers! It's Dad's machine BTW. (I didn't mention that before). My A4000
> with Cyberstorm 040 worked OK first time.

:-)

alan

On Thu, 18 Nov 1999, Jonathan M. Dudley wrote:

> Cheers! It's Dad's machine BTW. (I didn't mention that before). My A4000
> with Cyberstorm 040 worked OK first time.

2 A4k's in a house! and a parent who uses an Amiga...<sigh>

alan

On Thu, 18 Nov 1999, Patrice Champarou wrote:

>   Here we go : Apparently 3.5 enables windows to open a bit faster, and 
> icons to show much faster. The trouble is that some Prefs programs like
> Palette seem to take a lot more Chip Ram than previously, and load with
> a delay. Same for any background picture, which keep me waiting for 
> minutes (!) and even my TM docks which only appear ten or twenty seconds
> after everything has been loaded on bootup.

some pref programs will take up more chipRAM as they use more gfx...eg
the locale prefs.
 
>   Is it because I have no Gfx card, and only a 030 Blizzard? 
> Running FBlit doesn't seem to change anything, I've also tried CPU with
> different options... no use!

what background image type are you using? is it a JPG or BMP or
somesuch? for background image, its better to make it a plain IFF

alan

"alan l.m. buxey" <kcci-@central.susx.ac.uk> wrote: 
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=3D37209
> 
> On 17 Nov 1999, Andy Mills wrote:
> 
> > Or he could get the PowerLAN from Power Computing for =A350, which
> > includes a fix for the CC_RESET problem. This soloution would be
cheaper
> > than buying a PCMCIA ethernet card (~=A325) and having the mod done
to his
> > mobo (saving him time, hassle and the carriage to send it to
Eyetech.)
> 
> PowerLAN...soemthing i'm not aware of..must ...find...out..more....
;-)
> 
> alan
I`ve got a PowerLAN and I like it. It is only  10 MBits/S but it has
both RJ-45 and BNC sockets. I is supposed to come with a installer that
sets up Miami, AmiTCP and Genisis with CNET.device , SAMBA and things,
I can`t say for sure a I didn`t get sent these (only the AmiTCP 3.0
stuff so Ive had to experiment while they send me the other disk). It
does work OK without the CC_Reset fix in place as I`m not keen to
solder all over my motherboard. My system does slow down and I`m not
sure whether it`s this or OS 3.5 8-)
The card does stick out miles from the casing of the box but since my
1200 is in a Eyetech case this isn`t much of a problem.

PS: Does anyone know how to get PC Quake to run over the link to my
1200 it winQuake won`t run unless i specify -nolan and DOS Quake
doesn`t support Win98 TCP stack. 8-< 

On Thu, 18 Nov 1999, Alkis Tsapanidis wrote:

> I am now pretty sure that this is AMPlifier's
> fault as in AmigaAMP it plays back perfectly

what playback routine are you using for AMPlifier

alan

On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, Matthew O'Neill wrote:

> Anyone wanna render my compo entry for me? eta 4 days is a bit much for me
> ;)

Imagine project? sure, send it over :-)
 
alan

hi,

> Does someone know how to get a BlizzardPPC working again after a flashupdate
> failure.

with great trouble. if you cant boot from disk, then the card must be
returned for repair

alan

hi,

> Can anybody please explain *exactly* what H&P plan to do with these PoP
> boxes? Are they making them themselves or buying off of other h/w
> companies? How soon until we can play with one of these beauties? Give
> me some info (please)!

the big motherboard makers will make them...we can hopefully just buy a
box from H&P containing the PoP MB (or buy it ourselves from some
supplier) , stick it into a tower, add HD, Memory etc and install the
'kit' from H&P that is required to run it as 'next gen' Amiga

alan

_Replying to a message_:

  From:  Neil Bothwick <neil@wire.net.uk>
   Via:  Amiga Format mailing list <afb@egroups.com>
 Dated:  Saturday, 20-Nov-99, 01:44:56
 About:  [afb] Re: New Amiga Virus:Babylon5 


Hello Neil,

>> If programmers gave their tasks more sensible names, people
>> wouldn't have to worry so much about this,
 
>>> Why? datatypes.library is a pretty sensible name, didn't stop it
>>> from containing a virus.
 
>> Yeah, but a task called "Datatypes" in your system is a little
>> less worrying than one called "Klingon High Council", though.
>> It causes people uneccessary worry.
 
> Exactly. Everyone's busy worrying about Klingon High Council,
> meanwhile datatypes.library is mailing their passwords to DC.
 
>> Obviously the worse scenario would be having a task called
>> "Workbench Public Clipboard" in your system and having IT
>> contain a virus, because it looks so tame. But at least
>> people don't worry about it, and at least they won't trigger
>> false alarms..
 
> Which is better, worrying about something harmless or not worrying
> about something dangerous?

It's still better having proper names you can attribute to tasks without
having to ask on a public mailing forum, "what the hell does task name
xxxx mean?"  So that when something goes rogue, you have a better
chance at killing it off.  And you might just have a better idea about
why you have a task running with a system name when you're sure that it
shouldn't be (i.e. if you're not using anything that uses datatypes,
but it's open and doing things, you can worry).

Viruses and the like, are always going to be a pain, no matter what name
they call themselves.

It might also stop software authors being pestered by mail saying, is it
your program that spawns /this/ task?

Bye,
Tim.  (B.A. T.L.M.N.)

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_Replying to a message_:

  From:  Sealey, M. <mws2@leicester.ac.uk>
   Via:  Amiga Format mailing list <afb@egroups.com>
 Dated:  Saturday, 20-Nov-99, 00:49:15
 About:  [afb] YAM YAM YAM and Registering MUI =



Hello M.,

>> You wouldn't care to elaborate on that please? All too occasionally I
>> have YAM going stupid making an infinitely huge file in the temp
>> directory (when trying to reply to some message), that I can't get it
>> to cleanly abort (just have to kill and reboot).

> Easy. Go get Scout off Aminet, load the Tasks window, and click on
> "Break" a few times ;) YAM *will* quit if it's not dead, and if it
> is dead you can manually Freeze and Remove the task, and then
> remove it's windows etc. from the other parts of the system..

I've tried ARTM before, in that situation.  I can freeze it, or kill it,
but it's stuck there jammed if I do that.

>> Now that I've got a bit of cash, I'm playing catchup with a =

>> few things. One of the things I'm wondering about though is, is MUI
>> any better if registered (I don't care about fancy tarting up
>> abilities, just is it any more useful or reliable)?

> More reliable? No. More useful? Debatable. Some people (me included)
> would class being able to make the thing look that little bit more
> pretty and the ability to change all the prefs is worth a measly
> =A315..

To be honest, I'd prefer it if MUI apps looked exactly like all other
system GUIs, so there was a consistency across the board.  And I
dislike intensely having to fork out money for something against my
will (i.e. programs that use MUI just for the sake of it).  Sure it has
some nice features, but we all need graphics cards, and super duper
CPUs to use MUI as comfortably as other GUIs.

Bye,
Tim.  (B.A. T.L.M.N.)

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hi,

> Not with CGX4, you just add a tooltype to the monitor icon. I'm sure I
> didn't download anything extra for CGX4 (unless you count the updates).

the library for vlayer had to be 'dug up' i'm sure , from another
archive, it wasnt installed from main installation

alan

hi,

> See? Feature-wise they *seem* evenly matched. I want to know
> which cards they work best on, which ones aren't supported,
> which system is faster for such-and-such operations, which
> one is better for general use rather than specialised stuff.

VERY difficult...because its not just the GFX card and API that is
important...but also the CPU and machine underneath.

now...was that an 040 or 060 you were running the BVision with ..and oh!
this is a good result for P96 on the PicassoIV, but thats with 75MHz 060
etc

alan

> > Yeah, but a task called "Datatypes" in your system is a little
> > less worrying than one called "Klingon High Council", though.
> > It causes people uneccessary worry.
> 
> Exactly. Everyone's busy worrying about Klingon High Council, 
> meanwhile datatypes.library is mailing their passwords to DC.

And some intrepid user is running NetStat 24/7 and catching
the trojan in the act. A warning is sent out, and people are
saved from the menace that is 'foolz on da net who like ta hack'

> > Obviously the worse scenario would be having a task called
> > "Workbench Public Clipboard" in your system and having IT
> > contain a virus, because it looks so tame. But at least
> > people don't worry about it, and at least they won't trigger
> > false alarms..
> 
> Which is better, worrying about something harmless or not worrying
> about something dangerous?

I'd rather see a sorta midway between on each ;) Worry about something
dangerous, but keep task names unworrysome so that people don't go
ott and panic each time they see them..

-- 
Matt Sealey mws2@le.ac.uk 
Distributed Systems Support
Computer Centre
University of Leicester

> > "Productivity" is causing the problem, I'm afraid. I assume
> > you installed the ROMs, yes? Is this AFTER you installed the
> > new Workbench system?
> 
>   IIIIIIIIII'm sorry, Mister Sealyyyyyyyyy ( no, I'm not 
> drunk; not quite )
> but my friend Maaaaaartin said he ( hips! ) had, er... er... NOT
> installed 3.5 yeaps - er, yeep! - nope, YET!

Grr!

I mean you have to install WB3.1 over the top of WB3.0 as a first
step BEFORE you install 3.5

What system is he running? I would guess at 3.1ROM/3.1DISK but
it could be 3.1ROM/3.0DISK for all I know - one will cause obvious
problems, and the other will cause not so obvious ones.

I know he hasn't installed 3.5 yet, but 3.5 doesn't mess with
monitors or graphics. The 3.1 and 3.0 systems are subtley
different, and 3.0 disk based drivers freak out at the new 3.1
system. Symptoms include nasty effects on Productivity and
bigger, nastier screenmodes.

As Alan said, the best way to cure is to delete your prefs and
start from scratch, but I wanna know whether it's easier and
friendlier to cure first before cutting your Amiga's arms off,
as it were.

-- 
Matt Sealey mws2@le.ac.uk 
Distributed Systems Support
Computer Centre
University of Leicester

> hi,
> 
> > See? Feature-wise they *seem* evenly matched. I want to know
> > which cards they work best on, which ones aren't supported,
> > which system is faster for such-and-such operations, which
> > one is better for general use rather than specialised stuff.
> 
> VERY difficult...because its not just the GFX card and API that is
> important...but also the CPU and machine underneath.
> 
> now...was that an 040 or 060 you were running the BVision 
> with ..and oh! this is a good result for P96 on the PicassoIV,
> but thats with 75MHz 060

Simple solution (one which I covered in my FIRST mail about this)
is to take one stock A4000 with a processor in, and use that for
all tests (obviously Zorro cards only - PicassoII, IV, Cyber#?PPC)

The only variable would have to be the RTG system, and secondary
to that the card (just to make it fair)..

-- 
Matt Sealey mws2@le.ac.uk 
Distributed Systems Support
Computer Centre
University of Leicester

On 19 Nov 1999, Kevin Fairhurst wrote:

> It says to follow the B259 to the A27, not the A23 ....

B259? interesting...thats an alternative back route, which doesnt have
high traffic, but can take slightly longer than the obvious A23->A27
sliproad

alan

hi,

> Now that I've got a bit of cash, I'm playing catchup with a few things. 
> One of the things I'm wondering about though is, is MUI any better if
> registered (I don't care about fancy tarting up abilities, just is it
> any more useful or reliable)?

to be honest, i dont know....and i'm a reg'ed user! :-)

actually, it is better as you can config all your utils to use minimal
MUI resources...XEN gadgets etc

alan

hi,

>   Aaaaaah! What if I want to install 3.5 on my A1000? Can I load this
> 3.1 kickstart from disk, too?

no. the A500 can take the ROMs which are required.

alan

> 'better system'? Well, P96 uses CGX compatible API's..so there must be
> some reason behind that. Also, I believe that the AmigaOS should have
> its own RTG system..perhaps in OS3.8..maybe even 4.0?

No it doesn't. It has its own proprietory API (in "Picasso96API.library")=
 and has an emulation "cgxsystem.library" which translates calls to P96 o=
nes, so is slightly slower than using the P96 api directly.



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so long and thanks for all the fish
      http://fly.to/Mr_Tickle
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=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

Real meanings #6:
LISP: Lamers Instruction Set Patch

> Wassup? Why is no-one sending us reader reviews; 

I suppose I could review this PowerFlyer 4000

> AFCD surveys;

Still havent bothered to change my sub from floppy to CD...

> gallery entries;

Can't draw

> reader games;

Never finish them

> readerstuff entries;

See above

> WB screengrabs, etc.?

Not enough RAM to waste on big backdrops etc. (till the CPU card arrives..)


===================================
so long and thanks for all the fish
      http://fly.to/Mr_Tickle
===================================

Real meanings #8:
AMOS: A Mass Of Shite

> > 'better system'? Well, P96 uses CGX compatible API's..so 
> > there must be some reason behind that. Also, I believe
> > that the AmigaOS should have its own RTG system..perhaps
> > in OS3.8..maybe even 4.0?
> 
> No it doesn't. It has its own proprietory API (in 
> "Picasso96API.library") and has an emulation 
> "cgxsystem.library" which translates calls to P96 ones,

And the P96 ones just happen to be -- CGX compatible!

They have direct equivalents on the P96 side. Plus, as
you say, Picasso96API.library emulates CGX by making
a special library appear in the system to mimic it's
CGX counterpart - cybergraphics.library. As it happens,
CGX now does the same since they changed from v2 to
v3 :)

A real RTG system would use graphics.library only to
acheive it's goals. Picasso96 seems to be leading in
that sense with a full graphics.library replacement
installed with version 2.0 - so all graphics.library
calls are performed by the CPU regardless of bitmap
type. FBlit for graphics cards ;)

Actually it would be nice to integrate Picasso96's
patch functions into graphics.library sometime, and
extend the library to include some of P96's nicer
functions - direct truecolour blitting for example..

> so is slightly slower than using the P96 api directly.

Nobody would ever ever notice, though, it's usually a
few bytes to be swapped and a JSR, noting special.

In fact, this is what I really need to know - is Picasso96
faster than CGX enough to make using cybergraphics.library
emulation calls equivalent in speed? Or faster?

-- 
Matt Sealey mws2@le.ac.uk 
Distributed Systems Support
Computer Centre
University of Leicester

On Fri, Nov 19, 1999 at 04:09:07PM +0200, Patrice Champarou wrote:

>   Aaaaaah! What if I want to install 3.5 on my A1000? Can I load this
> 3.1 kickstart from disk, too?

There's two options - you can extend the WOM to 512K and then create a
Kickstart disk with a 512K image - there's documentation on Aminet under
hard/hack/512kWOM.lha . Alternatively, you can solder a ROM socket onto
your 68000 and stick it in there. Alternatively, you can try to get one of
those Viper boards with on-board 3.1 chips to work in it - I can't see why
it wouldn't...

-- 
Matthew Garrett | mjg59@cam.ac.uk

Agggggh!, f**king russen ruddy god-damn!........

imagine : 99.23% finished rendering (after 4 days solid!)

I opened golded to reply to the reader survey, saved it to ram: (idiot, I
know) and opened a window to read the stuff about submitting and the thing
bombed out!!!, agggghhhh! :(

really pissed off now, especially with the picture I was making......

Mash - with a will to kill
-- 
Matthew O'Neill - MashMan
HTTP://www.bigwig.net/mash

Freefall Sex: Only Redheads really know how to take it to the Limit!

Hi Mash, on 19-Nov-99, at 18:01:46, you wrote:

> really pissed off now,
> especially with the picture I was making......

of your cage in the Sefton Park Palm House ?

> Mash - with a will to kill

7.OpSys:> Mashoist mode ON

Come on then, hit me!


Armin

Some guy around here has been mumbling again. Apparently he goes
by the name of Kevin Fairhurst.

> Multiview is perfectly stable here - buy the 3.1 ROMS and the OS3.5 upgrade
> and it'll be fine for you too!   ;-)
 
> Kev
 
> PS Yes, it was my turn to advocate buying OS3.5 - I think it's Paul C's
> next ...

Eh? Excuse me? I haven't even bought it myself!

And I have two reasons, one pretty dreadful:
1) I'm too scared to replace the ROMs after the horror stories.
2) I'm too lazy to order it ;)

> Kevin "Redvers" Fairhurst - ICQ 14701124

Paul C, not opening up his Amiga until after Christmas
-- 
... DO IT in concrete, it stays harder longer.

I was just going to bed, when Ben Vost wrote this and I just HAD to read it=
:

> Hi all,

Well, hello :)

> Wassup? Why is no-one sending us reader reviews; AFCD surveys;

Because they're old and hidden? I haven't actually seen one for
months=2E

> gallery entries;

I've got some=2E=2E=2E

> reader games; readerstuff entries;

I've got some=2E=2E=2E

> WB screengrabs,

I've got one=2E=2E=2E

Trouble is, there are loads of rules and stuff which I have to read
and check I've agreed to and it's boring, sorry!

Anyway, what I wanted to ask is, how come S Kroustallis got an mp2 on
the CD this month? Surely if mods aren't allowed then mp's aren't
either?

> Ben Vost=20

Paul C, this weekend - maybe, just maybe=2E Tell you what, you let me
know when there are no entries and you can have mine so I've got a
better chance of winning =A350 ;)
--
=2E=2E=2E If you try to fail and succeed, which have you done?

Some guy around here has been mumbling again. Apparently he goes
by the name of Thomas Hurst.

> > have yo thought about PFS3 ?
 
> Yes, I think it's a rip off for a filesystem, sorry :)

I think it's quite expensive, but so is Amiga hardware (although
games are very cheap considering). It depends how much you value all
your work (if you don't keep backups).

> Tom

Paul C, not at work

> File not found: (A)bort (R)etry (L)ook behind sofa?

The afb-ot is usually a good place to look. Unfortunately it's not
available for public checking as yet, but watch this space!
Until then, for a small commission, I'm happy to check for you ;)
-- 
... Motorcyclists DO IT between cars.

Hello All

I've just bought Red Hat Linux m68k 5.1 but I know sod all about this
OS. I've read a lot about it and I am becoming more and more curious
about it. Could one of you sent me in the right direction of a
beginners guide to Linux, or even better, send me it! :)

------------
Freddy Fudge
------------

P.S:- It's just my handle, ok!

Hello M.

On 19-Nov-99, Sealey, M. wrote:

> In fact, this is what I really need to know - is Picasso96
> faster than CGX enough to make using cybergraphics.library
> emulation calls equivalent in speed? Or faster?

    The makers of P96 have said time and time again that stability is more
important than speed, take your pick,

Cheers
-- 
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Jon Barker                         ICQ:20786000
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Alan L.M. Buxey wrote:

>> Cheers! It's Dad's machine BTW. (I didn't mention that before). My A4000
>> with Cyberstorm 040 worked OK first time.
>
> 2 A4k's in a house!...

Not quite - I'm squatting in a flat over the garage.  :)

> ...and a parent who uses an Amiga...<sigh>

Yep! Dad's used both Macs and Windoze, but won't give up his Amy.  :)

Regards,
Jonny.
--
I love deadlines.
I especially like the whooshing sound they make as they go flying by.

Maarten Draijer wrote:

> Installed 3.5 and it worked like a Miami-install
> Flawless.

I just tried to install Miami from the 3.5 CD onto Dad's amy and got deeply
confused. Went back to Termite...

Regards,
Jonny.
--
Am I getting smart with you? How would you know?

Hello Matt

On 19-Nov-99, you wrote:

> Grr!

  Sorry! I'll never do that again. It's Afb-OT's bad influence.

> I know he hasn't installed 3.5 yet, but 3.5 doesn't mess with
> monitors or graphics. The 3.1 and 3.0 systems are subtley
> different, and 3.0 disk based drivers freak out at the new 3.1
> system. Symptoms include nasty effects on Productivity and
> bigger, nastier screenmodes.

  The thing is that I didn't notice any change when I upgraded from 3.0
to 3.1, about two years ago; no improvement, and nothing that behaved 
strangely either, whereas my 3.5 installation gives me real trouble
with docks, as I mentioned before.

  So when you say it doesn't interfere with graphics, I wonder...
I never use background pictures because of my poor Blizzard 030 
+ scandoubler ( having 64 megs of Fast doesn't help ) but I've often
tried to load rather heavy pictures, even Gif, as backgrounds just
to see what happened.
  With 3.1, they would take a lot of memory but load fairly quickly. Now
with 3.5 I'm sorry to say that most background pictures provided with the 
CD take MINUTES!!! and strangely enough, they don't eat up so much Chip...

  I've tried this with a 'bare' 3.5 installation too, after getting rid
of all the patches; same result. I wouldn't care about it, if it did not 
also cause my toolmanager docks to load with a 20 second delay and
hesitating hd accesses on startup and reboot!

> As Alan said, the best way to cure is to delete your prefs and
> start from scratch,

  That's what I said to Maarten in the first place, in case you hadn't
noticed :)

  Patrice

On 18-Nov-99 12:32:43, Ben Vost said about [afb] Reader interaction with AF:
> Hi all,

> Wassup? Why is no-one sending us reader reviews; AFCD surveys; gallery
> entries; reader games; readerstuff entries; WB screengrabs, etc.?

Cos they don't like to cross-post???? :)




-- 
Ian Urie  <ianurie@jwu.u-net.com>
Uin:19729444
Disaster often rests closely to success.

Hello M.

On 19-nov-99, you said:

SM >> Hello,
SM >> I just joined the afb ML just now, hoping I won't get too =

SM >> many mails each day.
SM >> I'll post some dumb remarks to get going ;)
SM > =

SM > As always. Hi Brecht!
SM > =

SM > (BTW Virtual Memory still isn't going in ;)

Arrr, just try really hard to get anti-aliased fonts in! :)

SM >> GMT is only CET minus one, right?
SM > =

SM > I think you'll find that CET is GMT+1 actually ;)
SM > Remember, GMT *is* time. CET is just rubbish ;)

Heyhey... At least we can enjoy our day a bit longer ;)

SM >> "It costs less than 2p a day since you last had the =

SM >> oppurtunity to upgrade your OS, so get real and get OS3.5",
SM >> Ben Vost
SM > =

SM > A quote after my own heart ;)
SM > =

SM >> I guess that it was about time! I personally think that each =

SM >> person should decide for himself wether he needs it or not.
SM >> If he wants to run software that requires OS3.5, he should
SM >> buy it of course :)
SM > =

SM > Are you going to buy it then, Brecht?

Only time will tell ;)
I've read the OS3.5 article in the latest AF (the christmas issue !!), an=
d to be
honest... I'm not impressed :(.

Salut
-- =

 -=3D< Brecht Machiels <darklite@flashmail.com>           <> Genk, Belgiu=
m     >=3D-
 -=3D< [ OSAP     -     http://www.crosswinds.net/~osap ] <> Dopheidestra=
at 21 >=3D-
 -=3D< [ Amiga Club Genk - http://users.skynet.be/amiga ] <> Tel: 089/350=
676   >=3D-
 -=3D<   [ ICQ: 4328206 ] + [ PGP key available on request ] + [ Team Ami=
ga ]  >=3D-

Fire a warning shot across her nose....

On 18 Nov 99 21:26:15 +0000, Paul Cundle (paulc@lantik.u-net.com) wrote:
> Some guy around here has been mumbling again. Apparently he goes
> by the name of Kevin Fairhurst.

Well he tries to ...

> > Multiview is perfectly stable here - buy the 3.1 ROMS and the OS3.5 upgrade
> > and it'll be fine for you too!   ;-)
>  
> > Kev
>  
> > PS Yes, it was my turn to advocate buying OS3.5 - I think it's Paul C's
> > next ...
> 
> Eh? Excuse me? I haven't even bought it myself!

Well you should do!!
 
> And I have two reasons, one pretty dreadful:
> 1) I'm too scared to replace the ROMs after the horror stories.

wuss!  what's there to be scared of?  pansy!

> 2) I'm too lazy to order it ;)

well get off your fat ass and order it!
 
> Paul C, not opening up his Amiga until after Christmas

Pretend you are a little kid and open it early!

Kev

-- 
Kevin "Redvers" Fairhurst - ICQ 14701124

Paul Cundle said, 

>> Yes, I think it's a rip off for a filesystem, sorry :)

> I think it's quite expensive, but so is Amiga hardware

Which makes forty quid for an accelerator something of a bargain.

> It depends how much you value all
> your work (if you don't keep backups).

If you don't keep backups, you obviously place very little value on your
work.


Neil
-- 
Neil Bothwick - Connected via Wirenet
The UK's first Amiga-only internet access provider
http://www.wire.net.uk
-- 
Windows Error  #09: Mouse not found. Press mouse button to continue.

Hello,

Has anybody out there got Pang to work with WHDLoad if so could you
please tell me how?

i am using:

A1200, Blizzard 1230IV, 8MB Fast Ram

and i am using the Hit Squad version of Pang

Thanks in Advance

Regards
-- 
/Alan/

/UIN/ - 42618074
<tsb>
<tsb>#   // Powered By Amiga #
<tsb># \X/    A1200 030/50   #
<tsb>
Sex is hereditary. If your parents never had it, chances are you
won't either.
-- Murphy's laws on sex

Hello,

Does someone know how to get a BlizzardPPC working again after a flashupdate
failure.
 
Kind regards
-- 

<sb>*Ron Hogenberk*

<sb>E-mail:/ronald.hogenberk@tip.nl/

<tsb>
Politicians should read science fiction, not westerns and detective
stories.
-- Arthur C. Clarke

   What's happening to AF? It's shrinking month by month! Are we going
to end up with a =A36 leaflet? On the latest issue the issue no. doesn't
even fit on the spine! If it's a problem with funding then use plastic
wallets instead of jewel cases for the cover CDs.

----------------------------------------
The windoze eGroup original members >:)
----------------------------------------
All hail Amiga!!

Greetings  Matthew 

On 19-Nov-99, you wrote:

> Agggggh!, f**king russen ruddy god-damn!........

> imagine : 99.23% finished rendering (after 4 days solid!)

I though my days of week long renders where over for a time, but this
060 I bought seems to be a bit of a turkey :( Anyway, It's a
<rankin>/tradition or an old charter or something/</rankin> that says
when speed doth increase, so doth scene complexity; which basically
means you don't get things done quicker after all 8]

> I opened golded to reply to the reader survey, saved it to ram:
> (idiot, I know) and opened a window to read the stuff about
> submitting and the thing bombed out!!!, agggghhhh! :(

> really pissed off now, especially with the picture I was
> making......

I making a point of rendering to a statram disk these days. It's
quicker than rendering over the IDE bus, and safer than regular ram
in cases such as these. . . Been there, got the T-Shirt etc :/

I took Bens' advice a while back and made a 10Mb rad which is now
permanent. I've got more ram now, so I'll prolly make it a bit bigger
now.


> Mash - with a will to kill
Regards

Andy
-- 
<andy.k2@ukonline.co.uk><http://esox.cjb.net>
*FUBAR*@http://www.rosande.nu
/PGP Key available on request/

Anyone can make mistakes, but only an idiot persists in his error.
-- Cicero

Greetings  Matthew 

On 17-Nov-99, you wrote:

> Hi

> Anyone wanna render my compo entry for me? eta 4 days is a bit much
> for me ;)

> ps. is there any discount on IFW if you're already on the ACUP?

I wonder if you sent this to the right place. . .;)

> Mash - 030 powered
Regards

Andy
-- 
<andy.k2@ukonline.co.uk><http://esox.cjb.net>
*FUBAR*@http://www.rosande.nu
/PGP Key available on request/

Politicians should read science fiction, not westerns and detective
stories.
-- Arthur C. Clarke

Hey there people.. I just got a GVP Spectrum Graphics card in the mail and
installed it in an A2000 and installed my copy of Cybergraphx v4.0 and it
seemed to work fine... I then installed my copy of AmigaOS3.5 and it still
seemed to work fine.. I'm not really sure what happened, (It's gotten a bit
foggy now because I didn't get right on it... got busy and just turned the
Amiga off for a few weeks.) but when I turn it on I get some hard drive
activity followed by a brief break and some more hard drive activity.. then
nothing.. just dead blackness... I formatted the hard drive and re-installed
OS 3.1 to see what could be the problem. It worked fine (Running from the
FlickerFree Video II passed through the Spectrum.) but again when I
installed Cybergraphx again it's dead and black upon reboot... any ideas?
(Besides being a dead Spectrum)

Thanks,
Jack

Hello,

I've just bought the abovementioned printer with the hope that the
400/440 driver (from Aminet) will drive it and the software inside the
printer hasn't changed too much since the 440 version...  I did want
the 440 but they said they've stopped production of them.  I'm sure it
was only a couple of months since I saw one in their shop!?

The guy in the shop said the usual "what's an amiga" and then said that
I could get drivers from "winsite.com" (yeah thanks mate) and that they
are univeral drivers which will work with amiga... I had a look and
couldn't find anything about universal drivers on winsite.com...

Thought I'd post this before I turn my ami off to plug in the new
printer...

Hope it all works ok.   Anyone else using this printer?  Any comments
could you send them directly to my email address thanks
(basshead@blue-lagoon.com.au)

"alan l.m. buxey" <kcci-@central.susx.ac.uk> wrote: 
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=37375
> 
> hi,
> 
> > Does someone know how to get a BlizzardPPC working again after a
flashupdate
> > failure.
> 
> with great trouble. if you cant boot from disk, then the card must be
> returned for repair
> 
> alan
> 

not necessarily this happened to me when I first got my ppc card, ralf
schimdt sent me a special version of the flash updater and this fixed
it.

of course you got to be able to boot from floppy disk at least.

try emailing ralf at laire@ufoo.phase5.de and tell him your problem he
may be able to help.

Hello,

I know I'm kinda late with this & I'm not sure if it's been mentioned, ( as
I can't remember the URL for the wishlist ;-) )

Now that OS3.5 includes net connectivity, I'd like to see a utility similar
to Go!Zilla on the wintel.....if, while downloading you lose the
connection, you can start downloading again where you left off, instead of
having to start over again.  Certainly would be useful, when 
with 500k to go and your Amiga crashes when d/ling a 5Mb file.

regards

chris
-- 
I have something to say.......It's better to burn out, than to fade away!
-- Kurgan, Highlander

Powered by PowerPC Amiga in Dumfries & Galloway

A1200 Power Tower, 200Mhz PPC/060 50Mhz, BVision, 74Mb Ram, OS3.5, CGX V4.1

Panasonic 36" Wiiiiddeessccrreeennn TV, Pioneer 717 MultiRegion DVD, Denon
AC3 Decoder, JBL Speakers, Kef SubWoofer..... 

On Sat, 20 Nov 1999 05:34:02 +0000, chris (cmillar@amigappc.u-net.com) wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I know I'm kinda late with this & I'm not sure if it's been mentioned, ( as
> I can't remember the URL for the wishlist ;-) )
> 
> Now that OS3.5 includes net connectivity, I'd like to see a utility similar
> to Go!Zilla on the wintel.....if, while downloading you lose the
> connection, you can start downloading again where you left off, instead of
> having to start over again.  Certainly would be useful, when 
> with 500k to go and your Amiga crashes when d/ling a 5Mb file.

httpresume?

on aminet ....

Kev

-- 
Kevin "Redvers" Fairhurst - ICQ 14701124

in a fit of rage Alan L.M. Buxey said something about [afb] Re: Transmeta...

> however, apart from the 'secret message', there isnt really anything new
> about the Crusoe chip...we'll have to wait until January

What I really need now is our lord Jim Collas to step up and say "Hi
guys, remeber me?", having spend the past few months finding
backers...

Well, I can dream :)
-- 
Anthony Prime
>>Milennium Bug? No Problem - Powered by Amiga in Crewe
anthony@prime.clara.co.uk

Hello Satan ( Sounds like Robert Johnson! :)

On 20-Nov-99, you wrote:

>   What's happening to AF? It's shrinking month by month!

  Maybe because Eyetech decided to go on a diet. Two pages only,
no glossy paper any more.

> Are we going
> to end up with a =A36 leaflet?

  Mmmmm... much more expensive, if things go on that way :(

> If it's a problem with funding then use plastic
> wallets instead of jewel cases for the cover CDs.

  And feel like the ugly duckling compared to other Future publications? =


  Patrice - not pessimistic, in case anyone should object.
           =

  I  WAS  JOKING, right? :)

  But I'm quite aware I'm dealing with serious matters - I was told this
was one definition of, er... humour :) - It's like in the old blues songs=
,
y'know... 'Laughin' to keep from cryin'. Helps to preserve enthusiasm
sometimes. Enough footnotes for today.

Hi Matthew
Somewhere around 17-Nov-99, you spewed some some gumph about [afb]
competition: lend us an 060/240ppc..... ;)
> Hi

> Anyone wanna render my compo entry for me? eta 4 days is a bit much for me
> ;)

> ps. is there any discount on IFW if you're already on the ACUP?

Whooops, wrong list....

Mash - 
-- 
Matthew O'Neill - MashMan
HTTP://www.bigwig.net/mash

Here's a list of what I'm wearing. See you at the morgue - Calvin

Hi Alan
Somewhere around 19-Nov-99, you spewed some some gumph about [afb] Re:
competition: lend us an 060/240ppc..... ;)

>> Anyone wanna render my compo entry for me? eta 4 days is a bit much for
>> me ;)

> Imagine project? sure, send it over :-)

You got 5.1x ? what processor?

Mash - 
-- 
Matthew O'Neill - MashMan
HTTP://www.bigwig.net/mash

Geco's distraught, he found out his girfriend & boyfriend are bisexual

On 18-Nov-99, Patrice Champarou wrote:

>> Why would you want a single partition that big!!??

>  Nay, Mash, I'm no native speaker but now I know you're not always doing
> it on purpose. He meant any partitions /beyond/ the 4gig he's already
> using!

Clunk..............click..........stooom.....ahhh, it all falls into place
now :)

ps. anyone remember a phrase "clunkety click, you're sure to be sick"? It's
been going through my head all day....

Mash - 
-- 
Matthew O'Neill - MashMan
HTTP://www.bigwig.net/mash

Every crowd has a silver lining.

On 19-Nov-99, Alan L.M. Buxey wrote:

>> Cheers! It's Dad's machine BTW. (I didn't mention that before). My A4000
>> with Cyberstorm 040 worked OK first time.

> 2 A4k's in a house! and a parent who uses an Amiga...<sigh>

Do they adopt?......I'm an orphan, honest!

Mash - 
-- 
Matthew O'Neill - MashMan
HTTP://www.bigwig.net/mash

So wadda ya' want for 10,395 bucks, buddy? A 486i?

Hi Ben
Somewhere around 18-Nov-99, you spewed some some gumph about [afb] MANAGE:
Request for help
> Hi,

> Since people have been crap at sending in Gallery images this issue (we
> only have three entries), we'd like to have a page of extra opinion about
> OS3.5.

If someone renders it for me, I'll have my WINNING (subliminal message)
entry before then :)

Mash - 
-- 
Matthew O'Neill - MashMan
HTTP://www.bigwig.net/mash

You Cannot Escape!  Resistance Is Futile!

On 18-Nov-99, chris wrote:

>> Hey Ben!, how about getting a wet towel onto P5's arses and get them to
>> bundle 2097 with the Gx boards? they screwed up royally before by not
>> doing a quake deal, please don't let them give up a great chance like
>> this!!

> Or how about.......Ben getting a wet towel onto Mash's arse for not buying
> OS3.5 or WipeOut 2097 coz he wants free stuff when he buys hardware!!

It's very unlikely that I'd buy 3.5, I just wouldn't get anything out of it.
If I had a ppc card then I'd certainly buy 2097,but I don't, so I wont. Oh
and bundling them together would benefit 2097 more (thats how I figured it)
Or at least a voucher for 5 off or something. Failing that, a leaflet
mentioning that it exists would be ok....

Mash - 
-- 
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HTTP://www.bigwig.net/mash

I found god in myself...& I loved her fiercely : N Shange

On 19-Nov-99, Alan L.M. Buxey wrote:

> the big motherboard makers will make them...we can hopefully just buy a
> box from H&P containing the PoP MB (or buy it ourselves from some
> supplier) , stick it into a tower, add HD, Memory etc and install the
> 'kit' from H&P that is required to run it as 'next gen' Amiga

are these PoP boxes the linux ppc things which have been released for free
or something else?

Mash - 
-- 
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HTTP://www.bigwig.net/mash

Modeming is an exercise of bits, bytes and bauds

On 18-Nov-99, Mark wrote:

>> by cursor do you mean the mouse pointer or the flashing block thungummy?
>> if the latter then its at the bottom left of the screen, along with the
>> column number

> The flashing block thingummy that indicates where your text will be
> entered. And it isn't shown at the bottom left of my screen - I get told
> how far down the page it is in inches :(

'e's right ya know! I'm sure it said how far in it was, rather than the
distance, hmmm

Mash - 
-- 
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HTTP://www.bigwig.net/mash

A schizophrenic vampire has a lot of holes in his neck.

Hi
> Does someone know how to get a BlizzardPPC working again after a flashupdate failure.
You are in BIG trouble.If it doesn't boot at all and it resets itself all
the time then you are in very big trouble.the flashrom needs to be
replaced.I have had this kind of problem but I sent back to Phase5
for FlashROM replace.BUT if it just keeps showing software failiures
(NOT Gurus)for setpatch or other command the re-flash it with the
old flash because it is not compatible with something.
             Bye
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Matthew O'Neill said, 

>> Or how about.......Ben getting a wet towel onto Mash's arse for not buying
>> OS3.5 or WipeOut 2097 coz he wants free stuff when he buys hardware!!

> If I had a ppc card then I'd certainly buy 2097,but I don't, so I wont. Oh
> and bundling them together would benefit 2097 more (thats how I figured it)

History shows otherwise. Bundled software helps sell hardware. The A500
always sold better when bundled with a good software pack than when sold
as a standalone product, even though the packs did cost more.


Neil
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I suddenly have a need for a good database program.

What is available for Amiga? I need to cross reference a number of fields in
one go.  I'm using Superbase (from CU) atm, but was wondering if there was
anything else.



Andrew McCombe

> Now that OS3.5 includes net connectivity, I'd like to see a utility sim=
ilar
> to Go!Zilla on the wintel.....if, while downloading you lose the

A friend of mine is writing exactly that. Email Ian at ian@bleach.demon.c=
o.uk and ask for details
about Go Fetch!

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
so long and thanks for all the fish
      http://fly.to/Mr_Tickle
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

=2E.. (0x2B|!0x2B), that is the question.

"sealey, m." <mws-@leicester.ac.uk> wrote: 
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=37337

> "Productivity" is causing the problem, I'm afraid. I assume
> you installed the ROMs, yes? Is this AFTER you installed the
> new Workbench system?
> 
> It just pushes the chipset too hard..
> 

It#s before and after installing OS3.5.
In 640x480 nothing is wrong. 
It seems 3.1 can#t cope with other settings in my productivity.info

thanx
maarten

Message text written by INTERNET:afb@egroups.com
>If anybody has any suggestion for stuff they'd like to see covered, then=

let
me know. Any hard drive related stuff you've never really understood, any=

common problems, FAQs,<

What can I use to rescue data when I lose the validation or lose the
partition completly, on big drives, over 4Gg.

Regards

Mike Q

Message text written by INTERNET:afb@egroups.com
>It's a GVP G-Force.
I'm in a catch 22 situation here. The Amiga boots with the old Setpatch b=
ut
not with the new one and 3.5 won't install without the new one.  :(

I'm rapidly coming to the conclusion that 3.5 isn't as 060-friendly<

I have a GVP 060 with 3.5 installed ok now.

I had to do a complete 3.1 install from the CD, then do the pre-install,
then the main 3.5.

When it had completed I rebooted and the machine failed. I had to
re-install the 040/060 libraries from the GVP install disk.

It works, but I have other problems with my 060.

Regards,

Mike Q

"sealey, m." <mws-@leicester.ac.uk> wrote: 
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=37382

> I mean you have to install WB3.1 over the top of WB3.0 as a first
> step BEFORE you install 3.5

I had 3.0 Romm and 3.2 KS installed. Nothing wrong.
I installed the 3.1 ROM and..Bingo. Problems.
And Patrice was right in the first place. after removing the ROWS from
the
info-file I had a staright 640x480 screen. But I want to have my old
656x495 back.

 
thanx
maarten

After installing 3.5 I can#t see my NI-icons from within progs like
Opus4 or
Startmenu. I disabled NI in my User-startup.
Has it got anything to do with the new icon-lib.

thanx
maarten

Hi Everybody,

> I know I'm kinda late with this & I'm not sure if it's been mentioned, ( as
> I can't remember the URL for the wishlist ;-) )
> 
> Now that OS3.5 includes net connectivity, I'd like to see a utility similar
> to Go!Zilla on the wintel.....if, while downloading you lose the
> connection, you can start downloading again where you left off, instead of
> having to start over again.  Certainly would be useful, when 
> with 500k to go and your Amiga crashes when d/ling a 5Mb file.

   It's called HTTPResume, you can get it off aminet :)

See ya :)
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Hi Everybody,

> Has anybody out there got Pang to work with WHDLoad if so could you
> please tell me how?

   To run that hdinstall of pang, I have to disable my 040 accellerator, =
so you could try disabling your 030, or try booting with no startup seque=
nce

See ya :)
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I have just moved into the 20Centuary by having bought for me as a
Xmas present a Epson 660 printer.What a difference from my old 9pin
120d.Citizen.Now if you all would save up and buy me a nice new
scanner to go with it I would be a real happy bunny.
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                               Keyingham.
                               East Yorkshire.
                               A1200.Tower.                        






                               
                          

Hello All, Since I installed 3.5 My copy of WW seems to be opening in
the wrong screen mode. 

Is there anything I can do to make it open on a pal hires screen?

Any help greatfully recieved.

P.C.

> Hello,
> 
> I've just bought the abovementioned printer with the hope that the
> 400/440 driver (from Aminet) will drive it and the software inside the
> printer hasn't changed too much since the 440 version...  I did want
> the 440 but they said they've stopped production of them.  I'm sure it
> was only a couple of months since I saw one in their shop!?
> 
> I have just changed to a 660 and it works fine using the 640 driver with turboprint
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> AFB: All polls MUST have dates!
> 
> 
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> http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

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                               East Yorkshire.
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Hello ,

On 20-Nov-99, you wrote:

>> Now that OS3.5 includes net connectivity, I'd like to see a utility
>> similar to Go!Zilla on the wintel.....if, while downloading you lose
>> the connection, you can start downloading again where you left off,
>> instead of having to start over again. Certainly would be useful,
>> when with 500k to go and your Amiga crashes when d/ling a 5Mb file.
> 
> httpresume?

Or Voyager3. (I think IBrowse 2 does it too)

Regards
-- 
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Hello Maarten

On 20-Nov-99, you wrote:

> And Patrice was right in the first place.

  Sorry, I /had/ to quote that first :) 

> But I want to have my old 656x495 back.

  There are several programs that enable you to hack the monitor drivers.
I can't remember which one does what you explained ( pointer disappearing
on the right side of the screen ) but the one I use doesn't. I'm not sure
but I think it's Newmode - and, sorry, I don't have time to check just now,
maybe you could get hold of it and see if it works.

  Silly P. - Very,/ very/ little knowledge, but...

/  One Never Knows, Does One? ( sung by Billie Holiday )/

Hello Mash

On 19-Nov-99, you wrote:

> Or at least a voucher for =A35 off or something.

  Blyme! I thought you were Irish... got me wrong again!

  Patrice - Likes Mash regardless to what people say :)

/But I'll never adopt you, sorry; my wife and I are too glad /
/we've retired from that parents' full-time job at last :)/

Hello Robert

On 20-Nov-99, you wrote:

> I have just moved into the 20Centuary =


  What denomination? Never heard about that sanctuary before :)

>.What a difference from my old 9pin 120d.Citizen.

  Huh! Huh! But you're definitely missing something, now. =

  The noise used to make you know that it /was/ working.

> Now if you all would save up and buy me a nice new
> scanner to go with it I would be a real happy bunny.

  You'd better save up yourself, unless you want to have a poor =A350
  parallel scanner offered by us all misers.

  Patrice - A French teacher at the top of his career ( which is not much=
! )

Anyone any ideas on the pin-outs for the ImageMaster as I have purchased
this genlock but without leads or manuals. Anyone who say's you must be
daft 
buying something without seeing it working :) The Price WAS right...

Please help as this has been winding me up for ages.


Thanks from Phil

Hi People,

Will the proposed G4 accelerator from Phase 5 be compatible with the Boxer
motherboard?

(If not, given that Mike Tinker and Phase 5 have had previous discussions, is
it likely that they would make a reworked version?)

If it is then my new machine which I am planning will be Boxer-based with a G4
processor... I would really love to be able to spend my money on this and have
a nice new fast machine at last, so I have my fingers crossed awaiting
(hopefully good) news...

Regards,

Frost.
-- 
Bite the hand that feeds you, if it tries to mislead you...

Hi People,

Does anyone know whether Golem from Power Computing is ever going to be
released? I really liked the demo, but have heard nothing on it since, and
it's vanished out of the ads.

Regards,

Frost.
-- 
"Scum! No one honks on an ABC Warrior and gets away with it!" - Hammerstein.

Hi People,

I suppose this question is generally for the AF staff. Although you seem to
dislike putting music modules on the AFCDs, does this have to include MP3
files that could well be sample-free or not involve any copyright issues?

It's just that they're generally fairly large for a casual download, and
getting more than a few from Aminet is impractical.

What's the actual reason for not including them, BTW?

Regards,

Frost.
-- 
If ignorance is bliss, why are so many people unhappy?

Hi People,

I've heard a variety of info on this group known as Digital Corruption over
the last few years, mainly stuff about them putting backdoors into various
programs, etc.

What actually is known about this group?Where are they based and how many
people comprise the group? Are their identities known? What are their
programming skills? Do they have any known agendas beyond casusing trouble
with backdoors?

Just the facts, please. No speculations, unless described as such. Thanks.

Regards,

Frost.

Hello again,

If I can't make WW open on a pal screen, is it possible to
have a bootable partition withOS3.0 or OS3.1 and WW on. Then set up 
another partition with OS 3.5 and the rest of my computor on it?

Yours, P.C.

Hello Again,

Is it just me whos system is falling apart or is anyone
else having trouble writing to afb with Yam.

I keep getting told that the server is not recognising the address and
that I should check for invalid characters.

I am having to use MD-II to write to afb and last week when I last
used it Yam was fine both ways. Anyone care to speculate.

Yours,  P.C.

> What actually is known about this group?Where are they based and how ma=
ny
> people comprise the group? Are their identities known? What are their
> programming skills? Do they have any known agendas beyond casusing trou=
ble
> with backdoors?

I use 6502 and Z80 emulation code written by a member of DC. I don't cond=
one their actions, but I have never found faster 68k emulations of either=
 chip, especially not ones that are as easy to use with your own programs=
=2E I can't think of any other good thing to come from them.



=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
so long and thanks for all the fish
      http://fly.to/Mr_Tickle
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

=2E.. (0x2B|!0x2B), that is the question.

Hello Tim

On 18-nov-99, you said:

TS >> GMT is only CET minus one, right?
TS > =

TS > Whatever your timezone really is, it's GMT+/- *something* is your
TS > timezone, not the other way around.  GMT's the fixed, standard, part=
 of
TS > the equation.   ;-)
TS > =

TS > (If one is the correct time value,  CET =3D GMT + 1  Not  GMT =3D CE=
T -1.)

Yeahyeah, wiseguy :) Noone did answer to my actual question BTW!

TS > Oh, and prepare for AFB mail to be a deluge.  It's the biggest (traf=
fic)
TS > mailing list I'm on.

I noticed :)

Salut
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Alimony is having to say you're sorry once a month.

Hi Alan

> > He was standing, right?  One of my friends is quite insistent he was
> > hanging...
>
> he was standing...which matches the tale told of the hermit killer.

Tis what I thought.  Cheers.

Tatty byes
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This week's lie: Kangaroos evolved on Jupiter where the powerful hind legs
compensate for the enormous gravitational field. They found their way to
Earth after getting lost foraging for gum leaves.

Ben Vost said something about [afb] Re: Timezones (was Wordworth)

> > That's YAM - you need to uncheck that ickle box, Ben ;)
 
> Yeah, yeah, I know...
 
<Alan Partridge> *Jurassic Park* </Alan Partridge>
-- 
Anthony Prime
>>Milennium Bug? No Problem - Powered by Amiga in Crewe
anthony@prime.clara.co.uk

Hi all,

I think I'm going to drop Haage and partner an email and ask them not
to develop AmigaOS further. On the evidence of the past two weeks
postings  any new releases wouldn't be too good for Matt's
health...
-- 
Anthony Prime
>>Milennium Bug? No Problem - Powered by Amiga in Crewe
anthony@prime.clara.co.uk

in a fit of rage Ian Urie said something about [afb] Re: BT to offer unmetered net access!

> >> Unless you never leave the house at weekends,
> 
> > I don't... :)
> 
> >> I would seriously look
> >> at Claranet, as I have found their freetime options to be very good.
> >> 14.99 per month buys 35 hours of free offpeak time, and any extra is
> >> charged at BT rate minus 20%. Peak rate simply uses your inclusive
> >> minutes at around 3 per minute online.
> 
> > I get 80 hours a month for 29.95, which is pretty good for my usage.
> 
> Doesn't sound all that great....96 hours using C&W on Saturdays works
> out at 24x4 = 96 for 2 phone charge + your ISP.
> I'm sure everyone will have their own versions of saving on call costs...
> I have a mate on Claranet and he has sod all but bother.

I think my original point was that Claranet allow you to use the
inclusive time in the evenings as well. A lot of people (like me) have
other things to be doing at weekends ;)
-- 
Anthony Prime
>>Milennium Bug? No Problem - Powered by Amiga in Crewe
anthony@prime.clara.co.uk

Hi Daniel

> > Anyone on the AFB List had received the NetConnect3 CD or
> > knows what is hapening with Chris Wiles from Active Technologies?

> A lovely edit of all the mails on the NC list :)
> Congratulations, sir :)

Well I've certainly had mine, got it around the time I should have
done, and when I contacted Active for some support he replied (though
somewhat tersly). I don't know but if he's moved he could be just too
busy to help for the moment?
-- 
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>>Milennium Bug? No Problem - Powered by Amiga in Crewe
anthony@prime.clara.co.uk

On Sat Nov 20, Neil Bothwick was heard muttering:

[PFS 3]

> > I think it's quite expensive, but so is Amiga hardware
 
> Which makes forty quid for an accelerator something of a bargain.

It's not exactly an accelerator, but I get your point.
 
> > It depends how much you value all
> > your work (if you don't keep backups).
 
> If you don't keep backups, you obviously place very little value on your
> work.

Not true. I value my work a lot, but I /can't/ make backups because
there's nothing to backup to. Even if I spent all weekend copying to
floppies, 1gigHD ---!=----> 50 DD floppies :(
 
> Neil

Paul C, having the time of my life
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    A: None. That's a hardware problem.